All About Pocket Knives

Good afternoon. These are my only Winchester knives, both were acquired thru eBay at separate times. I have read through many threads about counterfeits, just wondering if what I have here are real and are old as they both appear. Razor has a number stamp(8527) , 2 blade knife only has tang stamp on main blade, no other markings anywhere. Any help or thoughts are appreciated. I am having difficulty up loading images. I will keep trying. Not a great way but this works.

I collect Winchesters. Judging by your photo, I`d say both of your Winchester items are Authentic. Mike

To the best of my knowledge, this is the real thing.
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Thank you for the replies. Any idea on the age? I'm thinking the razor is old, the pocket knife is a little rough so it may appear older then it is. Ballpark is good enough, I didn't pay much and they are just going into my display case. Thank you in advance, it's appreciated.

I forgot the razor also came with the box, not sure if this helps in dating anything. Thank you.

Age? I will say 1930`s. The Box for the Razor is Really cool. The Box is likely worth more than the Razor. Mike