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Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:34 pm
by Sivart
Anyone have a master blade that I can get to make this knife whole again? The bone scales are too nice to scrap it out.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:53 pm
by 1967redrider
They are nice, and an Acorn shield. Can you see any remnants of a pattern number?

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:56 pm
by herbva
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Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:05 pm
by SwedgeHead
1967redrider wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:53 pm They are nice, and an Acorn shield. Can you see any remnants of a pattern number?
Yea, see if there is a number stamped on the back tang of that master blade. That's the best way to ensure getting a match.
Remington was pretty good at stamping the model numbers.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:22 pm
by ea42
herbva wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:56 pm I think this pattern is called a "harness jack". You might want to send it to Gary (GClaxon) to have a new master blade welded onto that tang. He does amazing work.
Herb Gary doesn't mark his knives in any way to show that they've been rebuilt. I think that's wrong, most especially when you start welding blades to tangs. That's fine if the customer is going to personally use the knife to death but in general knives last a long time and more often that not wind up on the open market. Now you have yet another knife being traded around as an original Remington when it's anything but, with uneducated buyers being ripped off by shady sellers who know just what it is. At that point it becomes yet another counterfeit knife dirtying up the collector market. Any knife repairman who really cares about the state of the collector market makes sure there is some kind of mark to make it obvious that their work is known. Orvet and Glennbad are two who come to mind.

Eric

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:50 pm
by Sivart
1967redrider wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:53 pm They are nice, and an Acorn shield. Can you see any remnants of a pattern number?
No there is no number stamping.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:53 pm
by Sivart
I didn't know blades could be welded in. I wouldn't be against it and would feel good about having it marked in some fashion that it was a repaired blade.

Who could I contact about getting it done? Also have other Remington acorn knives I'd like to get repaired. One needs a punch blade put in, which I have and the other i think just a secondary blade which I also have.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:00 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Why dont you just make one from 1095 bar stock? I have made several to replace old broken blades and they have all worked well. Make your mark on the tang of the blade to denote repair.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:17 pm
by Gunsil
All this talk of welding blades makes me want to toss every broken old pocket knife I have or will find into the sea so they can't be welded up. Replacing broken blades with original blades is one thing, making blades is another. There is a reason antique knives in good condition command a premium, they are harder to find. Mixing in welded blade knives reduces that rarity and as stated above, knife could easily be misrepresented in future sales.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:57 pm
by SwedgeHead
Gunsil wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:17 pm All this talk of welding blades makes me want to toss every broken old pocket knife I have or will find into the sea so they can't be welded up. Replacing broken blades with original blades is one thing, making blades is another. There is a reason antique knives in good condition command a premium, they are harder to find. Mixing in welded blade knives reduces that rarity and as stated above, knife could easily be misrepresented in future sales.
I laughed a little picturing that "NOT MINE ...splash..." :lol:

Maybe welding is a good topic for it's own thread, this was going around a couple weeks ago too.
But it's good to keep in mind that it's not a quick and easy way to cheat someone on a vintage knife, it takes work and time to weld, shape and polish a blade (+ shipping) - I doubt folks are making big money intentionally reselling these, it's mostly for knives of sentimental or personal value that you'd just like back in presentable condition. if I'm throwing in my one cent on things. (of course I could be wrong...)

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:52 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
If you look at some of the knives presented in the Counterfeit Watch thread, many have welded blades and sell for big money to unsuspecting buyers on Ebay. I remember reading about one that the consensus was it was a Kutmaster blade welded to a Case tangstamp. Clearly it is practicing deceit.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:45 am
by Sivart
I'd rather have an original Remington blade. I collect acorn shield and just want to make this knife whole again. But if a blade can be welded on, the knife still wouldn't leave my possession.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:29 am
by OLDE CUTLER
Sivart wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:45 am I'd rather have an original Remington blade. I collect acorn shield and just want to make this knife whole again. But if a blade can be welded on, the knife still wouldn't leave my possession.
Not very realistic on your part to think you will live forever. The knife will eventually go to others.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:51 pm
by just bob
Unsure if this has been brazed or welded in 2 places, but the first razor I've ran across that has had this repair. You probably won't see it on Ebay, but a sure-fire POS Hall of Famer.

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:32 am
by Reverand
My face hurts when I think about shaving with that!

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:10 pm
by stockman
Blade welding has been going on for a very long time. Some welds are very hard to see, and some may fool even the best old collectors.

Harold

Re: Remington jack knife

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:42 pm
by 1967redrider
Reverand wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:32 am My face hurts when I think about shaving with that!

Better have a tetanus shot! 🤭