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who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:13 pm
by bethofvt
I bought this nice little wood handled 2 blade knife and am having trouble identifying the maker. The tang mark says "Gowanda NY" with an "S" over a line that forms an "X" in the middle and an "M" on other sid
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e of X. Any ideas who made it and when? I know Platt & Sons and Case Bros were in Gowanda. Were there other knife makers there as well?

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:52 pm
by 313 Mike
I am no expert, but I am pretty sure that would be Schatt & Morgan.

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:11 pm
by beresman
Schatt & Morgan, between 1897-1902, according to Goins

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:22 pm
by Ridgegrass
That's worn-smooth, jigged bone, not wood. Nice piece. ::tu:: J.O'.

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:30 pm
by edgy46
Welcome to AAAP Very nice old, and rare knife. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm
by Ridgegrass
Just for the sake of discussion. Price says S & M were in Gowanda 189_?-1896,but then says the factory was sold to Platts in 1895 ?? Levine says 1890-1895, but says the Gowanda facility was sold in 1896 ? Goins says 1897-1902? The usual confusion. Keeps it interesting. ::shrug:: Anyway it's a cool knife and pretty rare. J.O'.

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:39 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
S&M Gowanda is a rare stamp.

They printed a catalog with the Gowanda stamp on the knives depicted, but then moved the factory and it has been thought by some that they never actually produced knives with that mark, but they did.

Someone here owns one and the OP knife is another.

How many were made?

Two, that I know of, but almost certainly more.

Charlie Noyes

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:19 pm
by Mumbleypeg
The OP has not logged in here since posting the question. ::shrug::

FWIW here’s the stamp as shown in the tang stamps “sticky” thread https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 00#p754416. Click on picture to enlarge.

Ken

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:03 pm
by Rookie
Mumbleypeg wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:19 pm The OP has not logged in here since posting the question. ::shrug::

FWIW here’s the stamp as shown in the tang stamps “sticky” thread https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 00#p754416. Click on picture to enlarge.

Ken
Just as an update, the guide shown there was from 2019. There was an updated version released May 2022 that included some additional stamps. Total list now has 71 different ones. I'm sure there are more out there to be found.

Re: who Made S X M pocket knife in Gowanda NY and when?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:17 am
by Mumbleypeg
Rookie wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:03 pm
Mumbleypeg wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:19 pm The OP has not logged in here since posting the question. ::shrug::

FWIW here’s the stamp as shown in the tang stamps “sticky” thread https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 00#p754416. Click on picture to enlarge.

Ken
Just as an update, the guide shown there was from 2019. There was an updated version released May 2022 that included some additional stamps. Total list now has 71 different ones. I'm sure there are more out there to be found.
Thanks Carl. Please post that update to the Tang Stamps Charts sticky thread. https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... =4&t=39799

It’ll do more good there than here. ::tu::

Ken