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Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:58 pm
by Clark23
I need help if anyone can help me confirm if this is a fake or legit? There is a spot on one of the tangs has what looks as a letter above Winchester on one of the tangs. The blades if they are sharpened a lot or not if someone may happen to know. I know some of the Winchester knives I’ve seen have more of a kick on the blades and appear be used. The main is only one looks used to me but could be wrong please help and hope to hear the thoughts.
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:25 pm
by 98src
I could not find a "sow belly" pattern in either of my original Winchester catalogs. That doesn't mean they didn't make one. However, your knife resembles one of the fake Remington "sow belly" knives (especially if you think the blades are stainless steel).
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:39 pm
by Clark23
98src wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:25 pm
I could not find a "sow belly" pattern in either of my original Winchester catalogs. That doesn't mean they didn't make one. However, your knife resembles one of the fake Remington "sow belly" knives (especially if you think the blades are stainless steel).
I had no idea if they are stainless or not. Someone else told me appears be stainless. So if they never used stainless and if they are that makes me think more on fake side of so and also if you don’t see sowbelly. I would had thought knowing the made modern 3 blade 4 & 5 I had thought those were reproduction knives. Thank you!

also it isn’t my knife as yet just trying to confirm first
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:58 am
by Gunsil
The pattern number is cold stamped in with individual letter/number punches indicating knife is a fake or at least a heavily messed with knife.
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:00 am
by Clark23
Gunsil wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:58 am
The pattern number is cold stamped in with individual letter/number punches indicating knife is a fake or at least a heavily messed with knife.
Thank you very much Gunsil

Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:06 pm
by Reverand
The grind line is also upswept near the back of the tang on all of the blades. That is often a sign that the tang has been ground down (to remove an original tang stamp), and restamped.
It isn't proof, but added with the other evidence it makes me think that it might be a counterfeit.
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:06 pm
by 98src
I don't think the pattern number is a Winchester number. All of the ones I see are just 4 digit numbers.
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:34 am
by 1967redrider

The one pivot pin looks suspicious . . .
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:19 pm
by Jacknifeben
I sent pictures of three Cattaraugus sowbelly knives to show some of the company’s made them. Maybe Winchester did not. What happened to my pictures?
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:31 am
by peanut740
The op knife is counterfeit.
Re: Winchester Sowbelly
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:13 am
by Mumbleypeg
Jacknifeben wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:19 pm
I sent pictures of three Cattaraugus sowbelly knives to show some of the company’s made them. Maybe Winchester did not. What happened to my pictures?
Wrong thread. The OP has two different threads going, on the same knife- it’s confusing. You put them here
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 7#p1042857. But yours are not sowbellies, at least not to my eye. They look like serpentine patterns (slight S shape). Sowbellies have more of a U shape - no recurve.
Ken