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ID help with this monster

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:53 am
by Teryjaki
I bought this at a militaria and antique gun show today for $95, just because I was so impressed with it. The seller didn’t really know what it was. Others at the show who spied it really couldn’t identify it either those I heard a few guesses it was maritime related. Not a tang mark or any other mark on it. Seems like a handmade knife to me but maybe it could be mass produced. Maybe a Navaja influence. Bolsters are gray metal like pewter. Copper rivets. Just under 8” closed. I’d love some input on it. Thanks.

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:56 am
by 313 Mike
What a beast! Does it have half stops? Is it snappy?

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:10 am
by Teryjaki
It’s solid. Blades stop and hold in position very well. Probably takes a couple pounds of force to open and close each blade.

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:10 am
by Mumbleypeg
Pak E. Stan? That’s my first thought. ::shrug::

Ken

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:14 am
by just bob
"Je ne sais quoi" I don't know what it is, but I like it.

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:17 pm
by BIGHEAD
Mumbleypeg wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:10 am Pak E. Stan? That’s my first thought. ::shrug::

Ken
Was mine too.

Re: ID help with this monster

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:42 pm
by Miller Bro's
I have some similar to this.

I think these were made by students in high school or a vocational school as a project. Also just a person in his work shop who decided to make a knife out of necessity or just for fun.

All speculation on my part.

Nice knife ::tu::

Re: ID help with this monster

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:33 pm
by Teryjaki
I tend not to think it’s Pakistan or anything from Central Asia because the materials aren’t really consistent with what you see from there. These bolsters are pewter or similar alloy. I would think that’s leaning toward early to mid 20th century and somewhere that used white metals like pewter. Western Europe/ Southern Europe?

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:41 pm
by just bob
Just a question here. Is there any such thing as a 2 blade Navaja? In looking at the images on Google I don't see another one.

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 pm
by Madmarco
I've never seen one Bob, and I browse knives all day every day. ::shrug:: 8)

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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:32 am
by btrwtr
Looks like a one-off complete custom made.

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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:09 am
by FRJ
I believe it is home workshop made.

Someone was having a good time. A good effort in my view.

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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:16 am
by edge213
btrwtr wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:32 am Looks like a one-off complete custom made.
::tu::

Re: ID help with this monster

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:48 am
by Teryjaki
Thanks folks. Consensus leans towards home made piece. I also never have seen a two blade Navaja. I just mentioned perhaps influenced by a Navaja only because of the curved form of it.

Re: ID help with this monster

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:09 pm
by Reverand
I agree that it is probably home made, especially when looking at the nail nicks. It looks like someone copied a Bow Trapper pattern and enlarged it. Considerably. I was really blown away when I saw the picture of it in-hand: That knife IS a real beast!
Could the bolsters be lead? I am trying to think what metals look like that and were readily available to the hobbyists years ago.
No matter the origin, it is a cool knife. Thank you for sharing!

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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:34 pm
by Teryjaki
I considered that, and maybe tin solder too. I’m leaning toward pewter. Only because I think if it were lead I’d really notice the weight and being a super-soft metal I’d expect to see far more denting and scratching from wear. The vibe I get handling it is it’s a lighter, harder white metal on the the bolsters. I tried another route in trying to nail this down. The scales origin. They’re quarter sawn birch. That could be from anywhere.

Re: ID help with this monster

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:10 am
by C-WADE7
Teryjaki wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:34 pm I considered that, and maybe tin solder too…. The vibe I get handling it is it’s a lighter, harder white metal…
When you mentioned white metal, I was thinking it could be bearing Babbitt, harder than lead and not quite as heavy( still weighty though).