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Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:48 pm
by bocaj
I picked this up today at a garage sale. I think the mark on the pile side of both blades is interesting. Can’t find it listed. Does anyone have input to help ? Thanks bocaj

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:34 pm
by Ridgegrass
There's a Walter Bros. from Germany early 1900's and a John Walter & Co. in Sheffield 1846-1862 (Levine's Guide, 3rd Edit., p.72. If it's either I'd lean toward the Sheffield, That would put it pre-tariff, (1891) with no stamp for country of origin. Not sure, just my guess. . Nice old knife. ::tu:: J/O'

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:51 pm
by Ridgegrass
Thinking again about the knife. It looks like celluloid which would mean it can't be made before the late 1860's-to early 1870's, which negates John Walter Co.(Gone c. 1862). If it's ivory (?) then it could be that old. Sorry, I spoke too soon. J/O'.

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:48 pm
by edge213
It's French ivory celluloid

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:09 am
by bocaj
Thanks. That stamp on the backside just made me think it would have been a bit more English but that handles are French ivory. Thanks

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:18 pm
by ea42
Ridgegrass wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:34 pm There's a Walter Bros. from Germany early 1900's and a John Walter & Co. in Sheffield 1846-1862 (Levine's Guide, 3rd Edit., p.72. If it's either I'd lean toward the Sheffield, That would put it pre-tariff, (1891) with no stamp for country of origin. Not sure, just my guess. . Nice old knife. ::tu:: J/O'
J/O I think the Sheffield firm was Walters, not Walter. I'd lean toward German manufacture, especially with the line under the small o in Co.. That was often indicative of German manufactured cutlery.

Eric

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:21 pm
by Ridgegrass
Yep! Old eyes! ::facepalm:: Thanks. J.O'.

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:30 am
by garddogg56
Very interesting ::hmm:: in 2011 or 10 I posed this knife asking the same questions and info from the guys on AAPK came up with these answers on the paper behind the knife ::nod::
This is one well made knife
I hope this helps

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:08 pm
by ea42
garddogg56 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:30 am Very interesting ::hmm:: in 2011 or 10 I posed this knife asking the same questions and info from the guys on AAPK came up with these answers on the paper behind the knife ::nod::
This is one well made knife
I hope this helps
The Sheffield company that existed from 1846-1862 was J. Walters and Co., I believe that's a completely different company. The OP's knife is just Walter without the "S" and most likely your knife is too? I can't make out the tang stamp. From what I've been able to find out the Walter knives were German, Walters were English.

Eric

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:51 pm
by garddogg56
Eric tang definitely is Walter &Co so German,thanx ::handshake::
Do you know what years?

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:34 am
by ea42
No years on the Walter and Co., There was a Walter Bros. from 1904 to 1914 but not sure if it was related. Someone on here had a big volume of German makers and their histories but I'll be darned if I can remember who it was.

Eric

Re: Walter and Co - TRUE mark

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:31 pm
by wlf
I agree with Eric on the big C underlined little o, that's what I remembered, although it has gotten foggier.