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mexican cordia wood

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:27 pm
by pmike5869
Just picked up some mexican cordia wood which looks like a good candidate for a rehandle project. Has anyone out there used this beautiful wood? It doesn't seem really dense as Ironwood or Ebony but the grain is beautiful.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:45 pm
by justold52
I have to agree. The grain is out standing.

Sorry I not know much about the wood.

What knife are you going to place the wood on ?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:54 pm
by pmike5869
Thought I would either put it on one of my cheap Rough riders or Marbles. These knives are surprisingly well made for the 8-10 dollar price and display the rehandle well. However, I have yet to completely dissasemble one and that may be the next project if this wood is suitable. This would also give me the chance to try some file work. I love to look at the beautiful file work displayed here, particularly the imaginative work from MM. To try some of these would push me waaaaay over what I've done so far. Worried about the pin_thru_ the_ bolster mess though. Also I would have/like to do the scale-pin challenge. Just another mountain to climb, or 3.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:54 pm
by muskrat man
looks alot like mexican bocote, maybe a different name for it. I have used the bocote and find it fairly easy to work but in return it is fairly tough and durable as well. It polishes down really nice.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:55 pm
by pmike5869
Thx for the reply, I'm off to see the lizard!!!

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:01 pm
by pmike5869
Which lizard? Why the wonderfullizardofoddsofcourseofcourse LOL
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:01 pm
by Hukk
Cordia is the Botanical Genus of several different species including Ziricote and Bocote. There are at least 40 species. That does look like Bocote. Easy to work with.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:32 pm
by orvet
Gilmer Woods web site even lists Cordiawood as a common name for Bocote.

I had not paid any attention to that before.
Thanks for the info.

It is easy wood to work with and you end up with a nice finished product.
Be sure to show us pics of the knife when you are finished.

Dale

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:36 pm
by pmike5869
Man, that's really funny. I asked the guy selling this wood if he had ever heard of Ziricote. he said no. I settled for this stuff which looked like what I wanted. This is a good example of serendipidy. Paid 5 bucks for the 2 and was tickled. Damn the torpedoes!

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:42 pm
by Ringmaster
Wear your respirator, Pmike...

You don't know if you're allergic to the dust or not, until it's too late. Won't kill you, but you won't want to work with, for awhile.

Be sure to let us see the finished product !

Take Care,
JR

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:48 pm
by Hukk
Here is a picture of Bocote (an oily wood) next to Ziricote (also called landscape wood).
Some Botanical names for Bocote are Cordia elaegnoides, Cordia gerascanthus as more than 1 species is sold as Bocote.

Some commmon names for Bocote are Canaletta, Cordia, Cype, Freijo, Louro, Princewood, Solera, Salmwood, and very wrongly Ziricote.

Some more common names from another website are Anacahuite, Bocote, Bois de rose, Canalete, Cordia-Light American, Cupane, Ecuador laurel, Laurel, Laurel de costa, Laurel negro, Peterebi, Salmwood, and Siricote.

I enjoyed the searches, I do like wood.

I like to buy boards that are at least 2 inches thick, 3 and for inches thick if possible so I can custom cut the wood the way I like it.

The second picture is pieces of a 3 inch thick Bocote board I cut up. I cut it up for some tight grained pieces and some for a looser grain. If you just cut it up you can't help but to get different pieces. Be nice to have a log so that I could quarter saw for the tight grain (sides will have a loose grain).

The last pictures are of Black Palm and Spalted Mango that are being stabilized at WSSI and K&G and shold be back and ready to sell in 10 days I think.
I will have quite a bit to sell and will be doing so after I figure my costs. I may even open a knife handle store here at AAPK. I do have quite a few exotic pieces, many I have sold on ebay and will likely list some there also.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:53 pm
by Hukk
Ringmaster wrote:Wear your respirator, Pmike...

You don't know if you're allergic to the dust or not, until it's too late. Won't kill you, but you won't want to work with, for awhile.

Be sure to let us see the finished product !

Take Care,
JR
I believe it's recommended for Bocote, thanks JR, I forgot that part. All stabilized woods wear that respirator also though I've seen stabilized bocote, I've seen the wood weep also. Not a good candidate for stabilization because of the oil in the wood. ::tu:: ::tu::

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:34 pm
by pmike5869
Thx for the tip on the respirator. I never would have known about that 'til it caused me a problem, which could be too late to do anything about it. I do have asthma and I bet it would have made me miserable. Will post pics of the results but am waiting for some supplies from Texas knife makers supply.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:10 am
by orvet
Here is a link to a list of toxic woods.

http://old.mendelu.cz/~horacek/toxic.htm#reference

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:26 am
by Hukk
Keep in mind that the list is by no means 100% complete. I know several that suffer from Desert Ironwood. I see cocobolo is on there as is black walnut. Black walnut is just murder on me. Doesn't make a difference if it is french walnut or claro walnut - I'm allergic to the stuff. But I have some great pieces of black walnut. Thanks for the list Dale!!! ::tu:: ::tu::

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:12 am
by Ringmaster
That's a great list, Dale - Thanks ! I saved it, for easy reference.

I notice pecan's not on the list, I'm allergic to that - but that may just be me. Everybody's allergies are different, I suppose.

Neway, thanks again,

JR