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Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:25 pm
by herbva
So, my friend John (1967redrider) asked me to see what I could do with this old knife. I was going to make up a story about John finding it when he was rummaging around in the ruins of an ancient castle in France, but the truth is that all he told me was "it spent a lot of time in a tool box in Florida". I believe that "Veritable" means "guaranteed" in French and I'm guessing that "Journaix" may be the name of the maker. I think the handle scales were thick horn slabs that some little critters has a good time munching on. Once I had time to examine it I was afraid that the parts looked so rusted that they were going to fall apart when I started to disassemble the knife. But the sturdy, all steel parts held up pretty well. (The bolsters might actually be cast iron.) I was also afraid that the bent tip of the punch (4th picture) was going to break off when I tried to straighten it, but it also held up pretty well. The new scales are Gabon ebony and both the blade and saw blade have good, hard snap now.

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:37 pm
by 1967redrider
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:37 pm
by glennbad
Wow, amazing save! Looks great!
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:57 pm
by 1967redrider
A little more info-
*Edit- It was Eureux, France.
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:58 pm
by Jeffinn
That one looked destined for the scrap pile!
Nice save and excellent work!
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:17 pm
by 1967redrider
Jeffinn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:58 pm
That one looked destined for the scrap pile!
Nice save and excellent work!
I was shocked at the snap it still had, Jeff. All I did to it before passing it off to Herb was a #2 pencil treatment.
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:38 pm
by Rdubya21
Wow , that came out nice ! It sure was rough looking before . Nice job !

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:18 pm
by Jeffinn
1967redrider wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:17 pm
Jeffinn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:58 pm
That one looked destined for the scrap pile!
Nice save and excellent work!
I was shocked at the snap it still had, Jeff. All I did to it before passing it off to Herb was a #2 pencil treatment.
Amazing!
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:24 pm
by Madmarco
Spectacular save Herb!

Viewing your 2nd picture I though this one is beyond redemption, but you pulled it back from the junk pile into a perfectly good user, very nice, congratulations! I particularly like the rivet at the bottom, is that what's called a "bird's-eye" rivet?

Thx!

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:44 pm
by herbva
Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:24 pm
Spectacular save Herb!

Viewing your 2nd picture I though this one is beyond redemption, but you pulled it back from the junk pile into a perfectly good user, very nice, congratulations! I particularly like the rivet at the bottom, is that what's called a "bird's-eye" rivet?

Thx!
Hi Mark. That's actually just a very small washer. If you look carefully at the picture of this knife before I disassembled it, you can just make out a washer on the "barehead" end (without a metal bolster). I like to use them on larger knives like this one and think they may help prevent pin cracks from developing. You also see them on old rigging knives.
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:32 am
by rustyoldknife
herbva wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:44 pm
Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:24 pm
Spectacular save Herb!

Viewing your 2nd picture I though this one is beyond redemption, but you pulled it back from the junk pile into a perfectly good user, very nice, congratulations! I particularly like the rivet at the bottom, is that what's called a "bird's-eye" rivet?

Thx!
Hi Mark. That's actually just a very small washer. If you look carefully at the picture of this knife before I disassembled it, you can just make out a washer on the "barehead" end (without a metal bolster). I like to use them on larger knives like this one and think they may help prevent pin cracks from developing. You also see them on old rigging knives.
It is a fantastic save and now a very hansom knife

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:03 am
by Madmarco
herbva wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:44 pm
Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:24 pm
Spectacular save Herb!

Viewing your 2nd picture I though this one is beyond redemption, but you pulled it back from the junk pile into a perfectly good user, very nice, congratulations! I particularly like the rivet at the bottom, is that what's called a "bird's-eye" rivet?

Thx!
Hi Mark. That's actually just a very small washer. If you look carefully at the picture of this knife before I disassembled it, you can just make out a washer on the "barehead" end (without a metal bolster). I like to use them on larger knives like this one and think they may help prevent pin cracks from developing. You also see them on old rigging knives.
Thanks Herb! I kindda figured it was there for stability as well as how it's assembled, and I do remember seeing them on old rigging knives, but I'm sure I had read here somewhere, that a rivet that looks like that is referred to as a "bird's-eye" rivet, so I guess I was just asking you if that term is correct for a rivet with that appearance?

Perhaps you've not heard that term?

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:27 pm
by herbva
Madmarco wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:03 am
herbva wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:44 pm
Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:24 pm
Spectacular save Herb!

Viewing your 2nd picture I though this one is beyond redemption, but you pulled it back from the junk pile into a perfectly good user, very nice, congratulations! I particularly like the rivet at the bottom, is that what's called a "bird's-eye" rivet?

Thx!
Hi Mark. That's actually just a very small washer. If you look carefully at the picture of this knife before I disassembled it, you can just make out a washer on the "barehead" end (without a metal bolster). I like to use them on larger knives like this one and think they may help prevent pin cracks from developing. You also see them on old rigging knives.
Thanks Herb! I kindda figured it was there for stability as well as how it's assembled, and I do remember seeing them on old rigging knives, but I'm sure I had read here somewhere, that a rivet that looks like that is referred to as a "bird's-eye" rivet, so I guess I was just asking you if that term is correct for a rivet with that appearance?

Perhaps you've not heard that term?

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Hey Mark. I guess that you could call it a "bird's eye" , but I think of the pin head known as a "bird's eye" as the ones I see that are totally flat, like on some of the Case sodbusters. On John's knife, I hand peened the steel pins the same way I do most pins, leaving a round pin head flush with the scale. I slipped that small steel washer in first on the "bare head" end - 1. because the original had small washers on that end and, 2. as I mentioned above, I hope it spreads out the stress on the end of the scale a bit and perhaps helps prevent pin cracks, although that may just be wishful thinking.

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:12 pm
by Madmarco
Naw, your physics make perfect sense Herb, I'm sure the pins will keep the handle stable.

Thanks for your interpretation of what a bird's-eye looks like, I pictured a sodbuster and recalled the look!

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:25 am
by Nev52
Herb, Great Job and Great workmanship

You saved that knife.
Nev
Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:39 pm
by Meridian_Mike
VERY NICE save Herb!
Great job!

Re: Veritable Journaix Restoration Project (French Saw Blade Knife)
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:40 pm
by dlr110
I'm totally amazed at the transformation. Great work Herb.
