Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

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Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by QTCut5 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:34 am

I've seen this "Shark" pattern made by other companies but never by Case (in fact, I own two that were both made by Taylor Cutlery). I'm not saying it's a fake, but I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable about rare Case knives will know. (BTW: I am NOT interested in purchasing this knife mainly because I think the stag is unattractive...looks more like something found on a Parker or Frost knife, IMHO.)

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/275110925732?s ... 1438.l2649
Case XX Shark.jpg
Case Shark Bolster Stamp.jpg
Case Shark Pile Side.jpg
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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:59 am

Heaven help us, that’s terrible! ::barf:: ::barf::

Nothing like that ever came from Case.

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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by Bamarick » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:08 am

As Mumbleypeg said, this is a complete fake. Case never made this pattern. It is not a prototype either. The knife is cold stamped, very poorly. The stag doesn't match Case stag from the XX era and you are right not to be interested in it.
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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by Beavertail » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:28 pm

Looks like it started out as one of these. ::shrug::
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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by rea1eye » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:34 pm

Although this one does look bad, possibly Case made a knife like this in 1940,1964??

Knifedb said it was rare.

https://knifedb.com/find-a-knife/?tang= ... s=#results

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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by tnorton » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:34 pm

rea1eye wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:34 pm
Although this one does look bad, possibly Case made a knife like this in 1940,1964?

Knifedb said it was rare.

https://knifedb.com/find-a-knife/?tang= ... s=#results

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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:49 pm

Interesting. I’ve found very few errors on knifedb, but I have found a few and advised the webmaster accordingly. IMHO the knife shown in the posted link to knifedb is not a genuine Case. The stag doesn’t appear period-correct on either knife, but more importantly the pattern stamp on the knifedb photo of the knife appears cold stamped and appears to have been done one number at a time.
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My reference books (both Levine’s Guide and Sargent’s ) say the 36 pattern was a 4-1/8 inch equal end jack.
Sargent’s 7th Edition, page 198
Sargent’s 7th Edition, page 198
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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by QTCut5 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:56 pm

I don't know if this is a meaningful "clue" or not, but I see that the tang stamp on the OP knife has a "closed C" and the bolster stamp shows an "open C". Did Case ever put these two different letter styles on the same knife? ::skeptic::

(FWIW---I also see that the seller has reduced the price from $505 down to $401.) ::hmm::
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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by Mumbleypeg » Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:50 pm

I see now the seller changed the listing again to $295 OBO. They also changed the wording to say “I have been told by several old-time Case collectors that they have never seen this knife. So I may have the only prototype.” May have! Clever.

The listing has ended so I guess someone bought it. ::shrug:: Someone either way dumber, or way smarter, than me. ::paranoid::
(But I would never have knowingly paid for a knife that questionable).

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Re: Never Seen This Pattern Made By Case--Is It Genuine?

Post by herbva » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:36 pm

I just looked at the "completed" auction. The $295 is crossed out and it says "BEST OFFER ACCEPTED". So it appears that some poor fool got themselves a very rare knife indeed! Based on this guy's other knives for sale, and apparent degree of knowledge of Case knives, I suspect that he knows exactly what he is doing. ::td::
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