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6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:05 pm
by celluloidheros
J. Ward Bronxville. 3 ¼ Tortoise shell whittler. Equal end bar shield This knife is old. Any guesses how old ? My guess is 1890 Hand forged

WR CASE and SON LITTLE VALLEY NY 3 ½ GOLDSTONE COFFIN JACK

WINCHESTER 3022 3 ¼ TORTOISE WHITTLER equal end, no shield I JUST NOTICED SARGENTS 5TH EDITION , I GOT THIS KNIFE FROM JIM SARGENT AND IT APPEARS IN HIS BOOK. Noticed the handle its easy to match up.

H and B Tortoise Whittler 3 7/16 swell center, bar shield, A beauty. Hand forged knives are so nice

Utica swell center pen, green swirl celluloid, 3 7/16 unsharpened

Valley Forge 4 blade Eureka pen, 3 1/8 green swirl celluloid
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Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:10 pm
by Ridgegrass
Pretty group. Some nice old knives. My kind of stuff. ::tu:: ::tu:: J.O'.

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:25 pm
by FRJ
That is a very good looking group of pocket knives, DC.
That Humason & Beckley!

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:26 pm
by celluloidheros
Ridgegrass wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:10 pm Pretty group. Some nice old knives. My kind of stuff. ::tu:: ::tu:: J.O'.
Of the 3 tortoise handled knives how many do you think are real tortoise ?

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:12 am
by Reverand
Those are some beautiful knives!

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:07 pm
by Ridgegrass
DC; That's hard to say. Celluloid tortoise appears very similar to the genuine. Given the age and quality of those knives my first guess would be all of them are real. Just a guess but the unbolstered "shadow" one would be the only one suspect. None appears shrunken or curled. Try a hot pin test or rub them with a silk cloth really hard for twenty seconds. Cellulose can give off an odor of camphor when hotly rubbed. Do you already know the answer? J.O'.

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:03 pm
by btrwtr
Beautiful group of knives.

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:57 pm
by Ridgegrass
Meant "celluloid" in that last sentence. Duh! J.O'.

Re: 6 Old Knives J Ward Bronxville, Case, Winchester, HB, Utica, VF

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:09 pm
by celluloidheros
believe it or not, i think all of them are celluliod tortoise. No real tortoise there. I have maybe 100 old tortoise knives and most of them are celluloid. I have a few old english knives that are real tortoise shell. Can anyone put their hands or an american folding knife that is real tortoise ?