All About Pocket Knives

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:36 pm**

Nothing to do with knives but figured it's been quiet so I would share. Had a friend wanted to make neckerchief slides for the packs cub scout leaders. So into the shop. Just simple and basic rectangles with cub scout stamp and pack #. Snap in the back. Came out nice. I messed around and did the inlay one just cause I could that one goes to the cubmaster who made all the others.

Fun stuff

Ross

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:38 pm**

They turned out nice, excellent job.

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:08 pm**

Great project Ross! Brings back memories of my Scouting days and how I enjoyed collecting and wearing different slides.

In addition to making these for the leaders, I would think you could find some good applications for the kids too. Maybe when a boy moves up the ranks (say going from Wolf to Bear) he gets a slide with an embossed bear in recognition. Or maybe better yet he gets to make it himself.

Dennis

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:49 pm**

Those are awesome! Even more so because when my boy was in Cub Scouts, we were Pack 21 also!

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:54 pm**

Pretty cool! I made leather ones in the BSA but I sewed them up of thinner leather, usually beaded the leather before sewing up the seam. Pack leaders plural? Things have changed from when I was in the cubs, My mother was the den mother of my pack back then, no multiple leaders. Most of the other packs by me also had a single den mother as leader. Here's her card which I still have.

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:15 pm**

deo-pa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:08 pm Great project Ross! Brings back memories of my Scouting days and how I enjoyed collecting and wearing different slides.

In addition to making these for the leaders, I would think you could find some good applications for the kids too. Maybe when a boy moves up the ranks (say going from Wolf to Bear) he gets a slide with an embossed bear in recognition. Or maybe better yet he gets to make it himself.

Dennis

Yep.done all that over the years all good stuff.

Gunsil wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:54 pm Pretty cool! I made leather ones in the BSA but I sewed them up of thinner leather, usually beaded the leather before sewing up the seam. Pack leaders plural? Things have changed from when I was in the cubs, My mother was the den mother of my pack back then, no multiple leaders. Most of the other packs by me also had a single den mother as leader. Here's her card which I still have.

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Usually each den has a leader sometimes 2, then you have a cubmaster who oversees all the dens etc. Add in committee members etc and you have several usually. Takes a village as they say

Kind words folks happy to help my friend and even better that as the cubmaster her leaders get something special made for them.

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:43 pm**

Nice work Ross! I know all who received one of those neckerchief slides appreciate them! Always nice to have something unique rather than the standard stuff from the scout shop.

Significant changes since we were young scouts Gene, driven by changes in culture and family demographics.

The Cub Scout “Den Mother” was common when most women did not work outside the home. Nowadays most mothers have a job outside the home. The concept has changed to “Den Leader”, which may be a mom or a dad. In the late 1980s timeframe the BSA instituted the concept of “two-deep” leadership, meaning no single adult is ever alone with any scout, unless they are that scout’s parent. Therefore there are no activities where only a single adult leader is present - there must be at least two adults. For every Cub Scout den meeting or activity at least two adult leaders must be present. If not, the activity is cancelled. As a result most Cub Scouting activities, rather than boy-focused have become family-centric. The involved parents bring the whole family, and that is encouraged. Without that change many if not most families could not participate.

Signs of the times.

Ken

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:02 pm**

Great times and memories.

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:06 pm**

One of a kind and one mass produced.

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:13 pm**

Here are a couple of leather ones from Scouting events I still have. One from 1955 and one from 1957.

Dennis

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:51 am**

Those neckerchief slides are really neat! I carved out a few wooden neckerchief slides from kits around 40 years ago when I was in Boy Scouts. I recently found this one in a box of old stuff I had stored:

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:05 am**

Very cool!!!

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:22 am**

Ivoryman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:06 pm One of a kind and one mass produced.

Man all that metal work to get the eagle just right and the colors really pop...really .is one of a kind hahahahaha.

Serious though that buffalo is really awesome. Is there a significance? Or just like buffalo's? Did you carve it and what is it made from?

deo-pa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:13 pm
Reverand wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:51 am Those neckerchief slides are really neat! I carved out a few wooden neckerchief slides from kits around 40 years ago when I was in Boy Scouts. I recently found this one in a box of old stuff I had stored:
Here are a couple of leather ones from Scouting events I still have. One from 1955 and one from 1957.

Dennis

Oldies but goodies. The hat one I really like.

Reverand wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:51 am Those neckerchief slides are really neat! I carved out a few wooden neckerchief slides from kits around 40 years ago when I was in Boy Scouts. I recently found this one in a box of old stuff I had stored:

My carving skills consisted of making large stick into smaller ones. Somewhere i still have a paul bunyan wood slide i started to carve and gave up. Inhad many buddies that carves slides and what a nice memory

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:23 am**

Glad I posted, kind of thought it wouldn't get much response. Pleasantly surprised and enjoying all the slides u folks have about

Ross

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:20 pm**

Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:43 pm Nice work Ross! I know all who received one of those neckerchief slides appreciate them! Always nice to have something unique rather than the standard stuff from the scout shop.

Significant changes since we were young scouts Gene, driven by changes in culture and family demographics.

The Cub Scout “Den Mother” was common when most women did not work outside the home. Nowadays most mothers have a job outside the home. The concept has changed to “Den Leader”, which may be a mom or a dad. In the late 1980s timeframe the BSA instituted the concept of “two-deep” leadership, meaning no single adult is ever alone with any scout, unless they are that scout’s parent. Therefore there are no activities where only a single adult leader is present - there must be at least two adults. For every Cub Scout den meeting or activity at least two adult leaders must be present. If not, the activity is cancelled. As a result most Cub Scouting activities, rather than boy-focused have become family-centric. The involved parents bring the whole family, and that is encouraged. Without that change many if not most families could not participate.

Signs of the times.

Ken

You're right Ken, I hadn't thought a lot about what the cubs might be like today. I have a friend who is a scoutmaster and runs a BSA summer camp so I am up on the BSA and it's problems but hadn't thought about the little guys. Sure is sad that there have to be two adults now and the whole mess that has befallen the BSA. I think that besides the home maker aspect of women back then was that especially in rural areas they knew basic wood and camp craft. My mother could build fires, pitch tents, was a crack shot, not afraid of snakes and knew about all the critters in the woods. I think a lot of the other local den mothers also had real skills to teach young boys or girls (in the Brownies). I don't think there are that many women these days who were raised with wood and camp craft skills to pass on to youngsters except in some rural areas which are dwindling. I sure loved the BSA, stayed in until I graduated high school, we had a poor but wonderful small troop. I am still close friends with three and a couple have passed, I hope some of the moderns scouts are learning as much as we did and having as much real fun even with all the restrictions and political correctness.

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:25 pm**

Reverand wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:51 am Those neckerchief slides are really neat! I carved out a few wooden neckerchief slides from kits around 40 years ago when I was in Boy Scouts. I recently found this one in a box of old stuff I had stored:

Very cool!! I made a bunch of different ones myself, only one carved one from a piece of red cedar which smelled great. I still have my BSA shirt and a couple neckerchiefs but no slides. I left the BSA for college in 1965, found the shirt in my parent's house when they passed but carried those two neckerchiefs with me my whole life for some reason.

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:06 pm**

When you've been around Scouting all your life, you tend to hand onto things including neckerchief slides (and this after thinning the herd).

Don't even get me started on Neckerchiefs, OA Sashes and Flaps and BSA Patches

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:33 pm**

Rossr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:22 am
Ivoryman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:06 pm One of a kind and one mass produced.
Man all that metal work to get the eagle just right and the colors really pop...really .is one of a kind hahahahaha.

Serious though that buffalo is really awesome. Is there a significance? Or just like buffalo's? Did you carve it and what is it made from?

Yup, carved it from a scrap of Mammoth Tusk I had lying around. No significance, just always liked the white buffalo in rare animals and Native American lore. Can't get enough of the tribal art thing. Saddly it was retired when my son got his Eagle and now on the rare occation he puts the uniform on he picks up the eagle. I always liked the buffalo better. Thanks for asking and appreciate the comments.

Posted: **Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:39 am**

Ivoryman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:33 pm
Rossr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:22 am
Ivoryman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:06 pm One of a kind and one mass produced.
Man all that metal work to get the eagle just right and the colors really pop...really .is one of a kind hahahahaha.

Serious though that buffalo is really awesome. Is there a significance? Or just like buffalo's? Did you carve it and what is it made from?

Yup, carved it from a scrap of Mammoth Tusk I had lying around. No significance, just always liked the white buffalo in rare animals and Native American lore. Can't get enough of the tribal art thing. Saddly it was retired when my son got his Eagle and now on the rare occation he puts the uniform on he picks up the eagle. I always liked the buffalo better. Thanks for asking and appreciate the comments.
Cant fault the kid for wearing his eagle one, but man the buffalo I would grab first!

I have 2 boys in scouts. I am an eagle scout and also a adult leader. Yep lots has changed. But I remain convinced it's still a solid program that benefits kids and helps them become better humans. I've seen it first hand. Lots of bad press and news out there but I'd sure wish we would talk more about all the good things, like service that is done in our communities, the life skills the kids learn, and yes all the fun and good times they have together. Memories that will last a life time.

Enjoying the thread folks

Ross

Posted: **Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:09 pm**

Wonderful slides everyone! Here's some that I made or carved when I was a leader.

Posted: **Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:46 am**

glennbad wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:09 pm Wonderful slides everyone! Here's some that I made or carved when I was a leader.

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All are very nice!

Although I'm sorry fixed blade knives are not allowed
In BSA. For the life of me I cant figure out why but you'll have to send me that slide so I can dispose of it properly yes that's it dispose of it

Ross

Posted: **Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:17 am**

Rossr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:46 am
Although I'm sorry fixed blade knives are not allowed
In BSA. For the life of me I cant figure out why but you'll have to send me that slide so I can dispose of it properly yes that's it dispose of it

Ross

Ross, good luck with your kind offer to help Glenn dispose of the knife slide.

However your statement “fixed blades knives are not allowed in BSA” is a common misconception. It is simply not true. I refer you to the BSA Guide to Safe Scouting where, in the section on knives it says

The BSA believes choosing the right equipment for the job at hand is the best answer to the question of what specific knife should be used. We are aware that many councils or camps may have limits on the type or style of knife that should be used. The BSA neither encourages nor bans fixed-blade knives nor do we set a limit on blade length.

So although your Council or Troop may have a prohibition on fixed blade knives, it’s not a BSA rule. For more info see https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss08/#g

Ken

Posted: **Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:57 am**

Rossr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:46 am
glennbad wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:09 pm Wonderful slides everyone! Here's some that I made or carved when I was a leader.

Nslide1.JPG
Nslide2.JPG
Nslide3.JPG
All are very nice!

Although I'm sorry fixed blade knives are not allowed
In BSA. For the life of me I cant figure out why but you'll have to send me that slide so I can dispose of it properly yes that's it dispose of it

Ross

In this case, I agree with you. I certainly wouldn't want to trip and land face first while wearing it, that would have been bad!

Posted: **Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:33 pm**

Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:17 am
Rossr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:46 am
Although I'm sorry fixed blade knives are not allowed
In BSA. For the life of me I cant figure out why but you'll have to send me that slide so I can dispose of it properly yes that's it dispose of it

Ross
Ross, good luck with your kind offer to help Glenn dispose of the knife slide. However your statement “fixed blades knives are not allowed in BSA” is a common misconception. It is simply not true. I refer you to the BSA Guide to Safe Scouting where, in the section on knives it says

The BSA believes choosing the right equipment for the job at hand is the best answer to the question of what specific knife should be used. We are aware that many councils or camps may have limits on the type or style of knife that should be used. The BSA neither encourages nor bans fixed-blade knives nor do we set a limit on blade length.
So although your Council or Troop may have a prohibition on fixed blade knives, it’s not a BSA rule. For more info see https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss08/#g

Ken

Ken ,

You made my morning! Been told that for years never made rationale sense to me. Our troop has no issue with fixed blades. Just common sense for example a machete is not a carving knife or for cutting up dinner. Anyway I'll have to dig into council rule I know theres stuff in regards to camps but dont remember policy. I've noticed over the years scouts with standard fixed blades and never had anyone say no or make an issue. When I hep eith totin chip or trainings I'll be keeping this handy

Glen. Guess you have to keep that slide

Ross

Posted: **Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:35 pm**

glennbad wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:57 am
Rossr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:46 am
glennbad wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:09 pm Wonderful slides everyone! Here's some that I made or carved when I was a leader.

Nslide1.JPG
Nslide2.JPG
Nslide3.JPG
All are very nice!

Although I'm sorry fixed blade knives are not allowed
In BSA. For the life of me I cant figure out why but you'll have to send me that slide so I can dispose of it properly yes that's it dispose of it

Ross

In this case, I agree with you. I certainly wouldn't want to trip and land face first while wearing it, that would have been bad!

Lol Glen

Question. In your profile pic that hammer looks small is that for tinsmiithing or metal forming on a small scale?

Ross

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