Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

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Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by RSD100 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:22 am

Here is a photo of a Remington Bullet Toothpick, R1613 that is currently on eBay. To me, the tang stamp doesn't look right, especially, "REMINGTON." Thoughts?
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by knifegnome » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:38 am

The word Remington looks engraved and very uneven, the "Round Bullet shield" should be R953 , the R1613 will have the Bullet shield.

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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by btrwtr » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:52 am

The round shield is correct for the knife. I would be skeptical of any old Remingtion TP with a bullet shield. Blade looks terribly over buffed. Just one picture of the mark tang isn't much to go on.
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by Reverand » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:57 am

It looked good to me until I enlarged the picture, then I could see what you meant. The size and spacing of the letters is very inconsistent.
Unless their camera did something weird, I am very suspicious of that stamp.
If there were a way to have the knife in hand and study it with a loupe, you could tell much more.
Since I cannot do that, I withhold judgement for now.
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by OLDE CUTLER » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:52 pm

The M and G in Remington sure look weird, like they came from someplace else.
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by Mumbleypeg » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:25 pm

Seeing the rest of the knife would help. Tang stamp is the LAST thing I look at. What does the rest of the knife tell you? If the knife is wrong, typically there are other clues that indicate fraud, before you ever get to the stamp. ::nod::

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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by RSD100 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:27 pm

Here is the link to the knife on eBay. The unfortunate part it is posted by one of the large sellers on AAPK Stores.

There doesn't appear to be a pattern number on the reverse tang, but it is hard to tell for sure. Also, there is no grooved hook remover in the blade tip bolster. But, the knife does not appear to be altered. Here is link to more pics:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143784489944
eBay item number:143784489944

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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by btrwtr » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:43 pm

Funny looking stamp on front of tang and no pattern number on back isn't a good combination.
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by edge213 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:45 am

RSD100 wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:27 pm
Here is the link to the knife on eBay. The unfortunate part it is posted by one of the large sellers on AAPK Stores.

There doesn't appear to be a pattern number on the reverse tang, but it is hard to tell for sure. Also, there is no grooved hook remover in the blade tip bolster. But, the knife does not appear to be altered. Here is link to more pics:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143784489944
eBay item number:143784489944
Which AAPK store?
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by stockman » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:13 am

btrwtr wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:52 am
The round shield is correct for the knife. I would be skeptical of any old Remingtion TP with a bullet shield. Blade looks terribly over buffed. Just one picture of the mark tang isn't much to go on.
Wayne, sounds like you don’t think Remington made a R 1613 with bullet shield. Thanks Harold

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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by btrwtr » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:24 pm

stockman wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:13 am
btrwtr wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:52 am
The round shield is correct for the knife. I would be skeptical of any old Remingtion TP with a bullet shield. Blade looks terribly over buffed. Just one picture of the mark tang isn't much to go on.
Wayne, sounds like you don’t think Remington made a R 1613 with bullet shield. Thanks Harold
Harold, not that I don't believe they were made but just that there seem to be way more fakes than real examples. I do consider the round shield found on the R1613 TP and the R3843 multi blade to be a bullet shield in that they do represent the round profile of the cartridge bottom. A gentleman I met years ago that had the largest original Remington knife collection I've ever seen called them all Cartridge knives rather than Bullet knives.
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Re: Possible bad tang stamp on Remington R1613

Post by stockman » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:12 pm

Thanks Wayne,

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