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Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:36 am
by stockman
Trapper, a little different style. Harold
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:41 am
by FRJ
That is beautiful, Harold.
Nice catch.

Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:43 am
by Gone2Three
Harold, that is a very nice Western States ...you did good! Don't think I've ever see one like it
Randy
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:52 am
by 1967redrider
That's a very unique Trapper pattern, pretty sweet! I like the birdseye pivot pin too, looks great with the bomb shield.

Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:21 am
by treefarmer

I'll just say "amen" to the other 3 comments and add, you never know what them folks from Kansas will come up with.
Treefarmer
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:47 am
by djknife13
Nice interesting knife, and Happy 15th anniv with AAPK.____Dave
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:45 am
by stockman
Never even thought about being on AAPK for 15 years. Thanks for the reminder. Harold
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:09 pm
by tongueriver
That is a dandy, Harold! Smooth black celluloid? Or? Anyway,

Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:14 pm
by stockman
tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:09 pm
That is a dandy, Harold! Smooth black celluloid? Or? Anyway,
I think or!
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:16 pm
by Colonel26
That's a fantastic old Western Boulder! Very nice!
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:26 pm
by zzyzzogeton
The B249S. Shows up in the 1931, 1936 and 1941 catalogs. No way to tell when it was made any closer than that as the construction did not change at all over that 10 year period.
The leading "B" indicates that the handle material is "Black non-breakable composition" in 1931 and 1936. That changed to "Black composition" in 1941. I guess someone finally broke one and sent it in for repair or complained.
This material could either be celluloid or it could be bakelite. Western used "Bx" and "BX" for knives with known black bakelite handles. They also used the phrase "non-breakable composition" for celluloid handles.
If it shows evidence of shrinkage, it's celluloid. If it doesn't, it could still be either one. I've seen some of Western's celluloid from the 30s that doesn't seem to shrink. I guess they had different suppliers with different formulations.
The trailing "S" indicates that the knife has a "special long spey blade".
The 249 pattern also came in models 16249 and 16249S, with bone stag handles.
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:57 am
by FRJ
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:26 pm
The B249S. Shows up in the 1931, 1936 and 1941 catalogs.
I wouldn't have thought that this knife was that old.
I sure like all this information you post about knives from time to time.
It's so interesting to read. Thank you.
Re: Western Boulder
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:09 am
by stockman
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:26 pm
The B249S. Shows up in the 1931, 1936 and 1941 catalogs. No way to tell when it was made any closer than that as the construction did not change at all over that 10 year period.
The leading "B" indicates that the handle material is "Black non-breakable composition" in 1931 and 1936. That changed to "Black composition" in 1941. I guess someone finally broke one and sent it in for repair or complained.
This material could either be celluloid or it could be bakelite. Western used "Bx" and "BX" for knives with known black bakelite handles. They also used the phrase "non-breakable composition" for celluloid handles.
If it shows evidence of shrinkage, it's celluloid. If it doesn't, it could still be either one. I've seen some of Western's celluloid from the 30s that doesn't seem to shrink. I guess they had different suppliers with different formulations.
The trailing "S" indicates that the knife has a "special long spey blade".
The 249 pattern also came in models 16249 and 16249S, with bone stag handles.
zz thanks for the information on that Western. I wasn’t finding much in any of my books. Great information thanks again. It’s fun to find one that is a little different Harold