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Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:41 pm
by Canadian collector
Just picked this knife up was thinking its a corn knife? Any help would be appreciated thanks.
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Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:16 pm
by doglegg
That is different, hope someone comes along with an answer. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 pm
by danno50
Very nice old knife, Canadian collector. ::tu:: Levine calls that a scalpel or spey blade. There is a picture on pg 204 of LGIV of a physician's knife with that as a secondary blade. He calls the knife a "veterinary operating knife".

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:33 am
by kootenay joe
danno50 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 pm Very nice old knife, Canadian collector. ::tu:: Levine calls that a scalpel or spey blade. There is a picture on pg 204 of LGIV of a physician's knife with that as a secondary blade. He calls the knife a "veterinary operating knife".
Really ? I cannot see how that blade would be useful in surgery. The curved section, closer to handle, is it thin and sharp ? Does not look to be.
I have seen a somewhat similar blade and the curved part of blade was for cutting off insulation from electrical wires.
kj

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:39 am
by Dan In MI
kootenay joe wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:33 am I have seen a somewhat similar blade and the curved part of blade was for cutting off insulation from electrical wires.
That's where my mind went, too. It looks like an electrician's blade combined with another type.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:56 am
by JohnR
That's a new one on me, looks to be very old, I would tend to agree some type of spey blade.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:24 pm
by knife7knut
I think the OP was right the first time:it looks like this corn knife.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:29 pm
by danno50
I am just relating the information given in Levine's guide. At the risk of copyright infringement I have posted the pic I am referring to.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:28 pm
by Mason
danno50 is correct that this Rodgers OP knife is a veterinarian model, and used for speying animals. This particular folder is quite an old pattern for Joseph Rodgers which dates from as early as 1865 up until at least 1912 with the same model number of 333. Enclosed is a catalog illustration of the Rodgers knife along with a similar example of a knife offered from Jno. Baker from 1924 as shown in their veterinarian section of knives.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:05 pm
by knife7knut
Mason wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:28 pm danno50 is correct that this Rodgers OP knife is a veterinarian model, and used for speying animals. This particular folder is quite an old pattern for Joseph Rodgers which dates from as early as 1865 up until at least 1912 with the same model number of 333. Enclosed is a catalog illustration of the Rodgers knife along with a similar example of a knife offered from Jno. Baker from 1924 as shown in their veterinarian section of knives.
Thanks for researching that and posting the catalog pic. I stand corrected. :oops:

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:43 pm
by danno50
Thanks for posting those catalog pics, Mason. ::tu::

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:16 am
by kootenay joe
Dan, i was not questioning your reporting of what Levine said, i was questioning 'is Levine correct'.
As Mason has posted the old Jos. Rodgers catalog pictures and text stating "Veterinarian knife" then Levine is correct.
I don't understand the purpose of this blade, i.e. what surgical 'thing' is it useful for ?
The proximal part of blade has a long concave area. Is this sharp ? or is the edge actually flat ?
A similar area on a Corn knife is used i believe to scrape off layers of dead skin from a corn or callous. Maybe on OP knife it is to scrape off dead areas on hooves ? I don't know if this is something that actually ever needs to be done but we do have a "sheepsfoot blade" so presumably hooves do need some cutting at times ? Someone here must have experience looking after hoofed animals so please post about this.
kj

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:12 pm
by danno50
No problem, Roland, I knew your were questioning Levine, not me.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:57 pm
by kootenay joe
danno50 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:12 pm No problem, Roland, I knew your were questioning Levine, not me.
Thanks Dan. I hope someone will reply explaining what procedure this blade was intended for as i outline in my post above. Just saying "veterinarian use' does not explain it's function.
kj

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:02 pm
by Canadian collector
Thanks for all the info I can always count on aapk for help. The first part of the blade is not sharp at all and is quite thick.

Re: Joseph Rodgers odd blade

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:54 pm
by kootenay joe
Canadian collector wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:02 pm Thanks for all the info I can always count on aapk for help. The first part of the blade is not sharp at all and is quite thick.
As the proximal curved part of the blade is "thick" not sharp then likely it is for scraping a surface, like a callus or hoof ?
kj