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Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:59 pm
by drs1231
I have a Winchester teardrop jack pocket knife. There is the name Winchester etched in blade and tang. There is no model number or place of mfg.. it appears to be very well made. The Main blade is long pull. I cannot understand why there is no other information on it, Any ideas?

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:52 pm
by Desert Golfer
Counterfeit. Made in Germany or China, Pakistan or somewhere other than here in the USA.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:20 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Desert Golfer wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:52 pm Counterfeit. Made in Germany or China, Pakistan or somewhere other than here in the USA.
I agree. Probably a foreign made fake that Winchester had nothing to do with.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:36 pm
by drs1231
Thank you, I looked through several of my knife books and couldn’t find anything like it. It does appear to be well made.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:34 pm
by herbva
At first glance I thought it might be one of the "Winchester" knives made by Queen for Blue Grass. But, mine all have pattern and date tang stamps. And mine all had celluloid outgassing in various states of progression, which I quickly corrected.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:41 am
by edge213
This knife has outgassing celluloid.
I have never seen celluloid on a knife made in China or Pakistan, but I suppose it could be made in Germany.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:31 am
by luckydog64
That tang stamp looks like the ones that were made in Germany during the 70s or 80s. Germany was stamped on back of blade and could easily be wiped off. I have had and see a lot of the folding hunter ones. They have an engraving on the blade. There are some jack knife ones but not has common as the folding hunter. If you search winchester folding hunter on the AAPK store you will see one that has sold along with some jack knives. Yours look like it has some German cell handles. They are either counterfeit or reproductions I dont know. My theory is that Parker had them made.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:44 am
by peanut740
You don't have to look any further than the etch.Not an old one,or licensed reproduction, ::td::

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:23 pm
by Vit_213
herbva wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:34 pm And mine all had celluloid outgassing in various states of progression, which I quickly corrected.
How did you correct it?

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:59 pm
by herbva
I took them apart, removed all the rust and outgassing damage, and reassembled them with new handles. Unfortunately, most of them had some residual pitting that I could not remove. Very time consuming and probably not worth the effort.

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:15 pm
by Vit_213
Clear. I was hoping to find out a method for stabilizing or preserving celluloid. :-|

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:29 pm
by 1967redrider
Vit_213 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:15 pm Clear. I was hoping to find out a method for stabilizing or preserving celluloid. :-|

Currently I don't think there is such a thing. But, chemically speaking, wouldn't that be possible? ::shrug::
Anyone know of other stabilization processes? The only thing I can think of is stabilizing Ethanol. I wonder what would happen if you soaked a celluloid knife in Stabil?

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:43 pm
by Vit_213
1967redrider wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:29 pm Currently I don't think there is such a thing. But, chemically speaking, wouldn't that be possible? ::shrug::
I do not know, and therefore I have to pass by many beautiful knives for ebay. Also, I am simply enraged by the fact that in the 90s the owners of Blue Grass could not but know about these features of celluloid ::censored:: .

Re: Winchester pocket knife no model number, Or origin

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:54 pm
by 1967redrider
Vit_213 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:43 pm
1967redrider wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:29 pm Currently I don't think there is such a thing. But, chemically speaking, wouldn't that be possible? ::shrug::
I do not know, and therefore I have to pass by many beautiful knives for ebay. Also, I am simply enraged by the fact that in the 90s the owners of Blue Grass could not but know about these features of celluloid ::censored:: .

Look at the Fight'N Roosters and Bulldogs too. They're gorgeous until they grenade and take out your collection.