All About Pocket Knives

I've always been fond of the Pony Jack Style knives. Like the Camillus 21, Craftsman 9507, and Schrade 272 & 12OT varients. So I got this one in today to add to my Camillus and Pony Jack Family.

It's a Camillus long line tang stamp, Pattern 21 Pony Jack. Although Camillus states the 21 Is 2-13/16 inches closed, this one and a black handle one I have are closer to 2-7/8 ". It has a Sabre Clip master blade and pen secondary. The blades are tight with no wobble and have great snap. It has the brown composite handles that Camillus called brownstag. They still have the original luster with some small scratches.The only down side of this knife is the pile side handle is faded some and the owner has his name etched on the blade and rear bolster. But this doesn't bother me, it's just a neat little knife. But if you happen to know Tom Luft, tell him I have his knife now.

Papa Bones wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:18 pm I've.....

G@@D LKING "21" Smitty.......
or is it Tom?

New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:03 am

Papa Bones wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:18 pm I've.....

G@@D LKING "21" Smitty.......
or is it Tom?

New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:03 am
G@@D LKING "21" Smitty.......
or is it Tom?

Thanks Skip. Heck, you can call me anything as long as you call me for supper. An old saying my Grandad used to say.

Papa Bones wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:17 am

New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:03 am
G@@D LKING "21" Smitty.......
or is it Tom?

Thanks Skip. Heck, you can call me anything as long as you call me for supper. An old saying my Grandad used to say.

I’ll play the ponies with you,now that I’m done laughing .
Thanks for posting this thread Smitty , that’s a size that’s overlooked a lot .
Here’s a couple, the top one is bone, 21 the other is a 22 that believe was rehandled ,but the same size as 21 ,same tang stamp .
Good Idea Smitty

Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:24 am I’ll.....

Fine examples of CAMILLUS cutlery JP.

New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:43 am

Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:24 am I’ll.....

Fine examples of CAMILLUS cutlery JP.

Thanks Skip ,had too do something to stop laughing.
And didn’t even think about clones/ variations till Smitty bought it up . That could be a whole new Rabbit hole !
Have a good one out there

Hey Smitty. Can I throw my 21 and a Winchester on the pile?

Ripster wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:24 am
I’ll play the ponies with you,now that I’m done laughing .
Thanks for posting this thread Smitty , that’s a size that’s overlooked a lot .
Here’s a couple, the top one is bone, 21 the other is a 22 that believe was rehandled ,but the same size as 21 ,same tang stamp .
Good Idea Smitty

Good looking knives JP. Yep if it is a 22 it has probably been rehandled. I think the only difference between a 21 and a 22, is that the 22's had the white or yellow handles what Camillus called "Maize Pyroxylin" handles which if I remember was a type of celluloid. But I believe the later 22's had yellow delrin.

There was also a pattern 32 which was the same dimensions and had what Camillus called Agate Pyroxylin handles.

jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:12 am Hey Smitty. Can I throw my 21 and a Winchester on the pile?

Camillus 21 Ole Smoky - Pony Jack - Labeled.jpg
Winchester 29016.JPG

By all means JerryD. The more the merrier. Good looking pair of Pony Jacks.

And there's the entire pile.

jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:17 am And there's the entire pile.

Thanks Jerry , fine looking herd of ponies you got there . The Cams and that little Ulster are nice little pieces . Stay warm ,have a good one !

Thought I would post a collective of some of my Pony Clones. But I have a question. Does anyone know of a older Kutmaster Catalog. I would like to know what the Kutmaster (Left column 5th from the top in upper photo, left column 4th from top in bottom photo) is called. It is the dimension and style of frame of a Pony Jack, it has two blades, but the secondary is a coping blade and is on the left side of the frame.

Papa Bones wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:42 pm Thought.....

VERY nice assortment you have there Smitty.
Sorry, I do NOT have any KUTMASTER catalogs at all.

New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:16 pm
VERY nice assortment you have there Smitty.
Sorry, I do NOT have any KUTMASTER catalogs at all.

Thanks Skip

Not a beauty, but I added another to my Camillus Pony Jack family. Got this at a trade day yesterday for cheep$. A Camillus Long Line tang stamp Camillus 21 Pony Jack with black composite handles. I believe it has been repined, but can't understand someone putting in the effort in an inexpensive knife years ago. The seller said he had it about 6 or 8 years and it was that way when he got it. It has an exposed pin in the front bolster. Both blades have wear, had some surface rust on the blades & in the wells but have awesome snap with very positive half-stops. It needed some cleaning, and had several years of pocket lint packed in the blade wells. But here it is after the warm mineral oil spa treatment, & flush, with some steel wool thrown in for good measure.

Papa Bones wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:24 pm Not.....

Yet another FINE acquisition you've made Smitty.

Great looking knives everyone! Love the pattern & size of these! Super cool knives!

New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:42 pm
Yet another FINE acquisition you've made Smitty.

Appreciate it Skip!!

TPK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:33 pm Great looking knives everyone! Love the pattern & size of these! Super cool knives!

Appreciate it Tom. What I like about them is I can stick one in my watch pocket of a pair of jeans, and another larger knife in the regular pocket below it.

That cleaned up nicely. That's a dandy.

Papa Bones wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:24 pm Not a beauty, but I added another to my Camillus Pony Jack family. Got this at a trade day yesterday for cheep$. A Camillus Long Line tang stamp Camillus 21 Pony Jack with black composite handles. I believe it has been repined, but can't understand someone putting in the effort in an inexpensive knife years ago. The seller said he had it about 6 or 8 years and it was that way when he got it. It has an exposed pin in the front bolster. Both blades have wear, had some surface rust on the blades & in the wells but have awesome snap with very positive half-stops. It needed some cleaning, and had several years of pocket lint packed in the blade wells. But here it is after the warm mineral oil spa treatment, & flush, with some steel wool thrown in for good measure.

Hey there Smitty , your pony herd is a growing . Nice snag on the last one .
Did some checking on that
Kutmaster with the different blade configuration and couldn’t find one like it . It looks like a mystery for now to me. Maybe a Kutmaster Guy ,it’s the first I’ve seen in that frame . Let us know if you find out , thanks for the pony show.
Jerry ,that’s a nice herd you got there as well . Thanks for showing those

jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:42 am That cleaned up nicely. That's a dandy.

Thanks Jerry!

Ripster wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:30 am
Hey there Smitty , your pony herd is a growing . Nice snag on the last one .
Did some checking on that
Kutmaster with the different blade configuration and couldn’t find one like it . It looks like a mystery for now to me. Maybe a Kutmaster Guy ,it’s the first I’ve seen in that frame . Let us know if you find out , thanks for the pony show.
Jerry ,that’s a nice herd you got there as well . Thanks for showing those

Appreciate it JP

Hey there Smitty ,was digging around in my Case Corner and noticed these 2 . A 3220 CV Yellow handle and a 6220 SS Blue bones. Would they fit in with the requirements for the pony herd ? When I hold them along side the Camillus in the pic the frames seem very close. The bolsters are not as squared off as the Cams or Ka bar shown .
Nice thread ,Thanks for posting it.

Ripster wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:59 pm Hey there Smitty ,was digging around in my Case Corner and noticed these 2 . A 3220 CV Yellow handle and a 6220 SS Blue bones. Would they fit in with the requirements for the pony herd ?

I'm not Smitty but Case calls them Peanuts.

jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:23 pm

Ripster wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:59 pm Hey there Smitty ,was digging around in my Case Corner and noticed these 2 . A 3220 CV Yellow handle and a 6220 SS Blue bones. Would they fit in with the requirements for the pony herd ?

I'm not Smitty but Case calls them Peanuts.

Gotcha , thanks Jerry . Hope you’re staying warm and safe.