All About Pocket Knives

FRJ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:43 am I've never heard of the Bethlehem Star.
Is this an occasional sighting?

Meridian_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:49 pm Here is a poor picture my wife took with her phone....
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Christmas star.JPG
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It's not all that good but it shows how RED Jupiter is when it is up next to Saturn.
(or, is Saturn the RED one???)
Pretty cool.
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Maybe this is the Lord REMINDING us that Jesus was born as our Savior.
When Jesus was born, a very bright star, appeared over Bethlehem for SEVERAL days to show the way to where Jesus was born.
This was the first miracle God gave to the world to show everyone Jesus was HIS Son!

LDF Knives wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:31 pm

Meridian_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:49 pm Here is a poor picture my wife took with her phone....
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Christmas star.JPG
.
It's not all that good but it shows how RED Jupiter is when it is up next to Saturn.
(or, is Saturn the RED one???)
Pretty cool.
.
Maybe this is the Lord REMINDING us that Jesus was born as our Savior.
When Jesus was born, a very bright star, appeared over Bethlehem for SEVERAL days to show the way to where Jesus was born.
This was the first miracle God gave to the world to show everyone Jesus was HIS Son!

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:09 pm Rs, the picture seems to show Jupiter and Saturn as far apart. Would this still look like just one bright spot with just your eyes ?
kj

OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:35 am These conjunctions of planets happen fairly frequently in different combinations. The current one is Jupiter/Saturn. Venus and Mars also are involved in conjunctions with any two or more of the 4 planets mentioned capable of producing conjunctions. While the two planets appear to be very close together, one has to remember that at the time they looked the closest, Jupiter was 5.8 astronomical units from earth while Saturn was 10.7. One a.u. equals 92,955,807 miles, so Saturn was hundreds of millions of miles "behind" Jupiter. The statement that this current event has not happened for 800 years is not true. As I mentioned they happen fairly frequently. They have not appeared to be this close together in the sky for 800 years. Also it is a total misnomer to call it is a Bethlehem star since neither object is a star and can happen at any time of the year and in this instance by coincidence is near Christmas time. When I used to do astronomy programs for kids groups and Scouts, I used to demonstrate with a baseball and a hoopla hoop, the base ball being the sun and the hoopla hoop being the ecliptic. The ecliptic is the path that the planets seem to take across the night sky. So just by coincidence from time to time from our perspective on earth they will appear close together, or in conjunction.

Railsplitter wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:54 am

OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:35 am These conjunctions of planets happen fairly frequently in different combinations. The current one is Jupiter/Saturn. Venus and Mars also are involved in conjunctions with any two or more of the 4 planets mentioned capable of producing conjunctions. While the two planets appear to be very close together, one has to remember that at the time they looked the closest, Jupiter was 5.8 astronomical units from earth while Saturn was 10.7. One a.u. equals 92,955,807 miles, so Saturn was hundreds of millions of miles "behind" Jupiter. The statement that this current event has not happened for 800 years is not true. As I mentioned they happen fairly frequently. They have not appeared to be this close together in the sky for 800 years. Also it is a total misnomer to call it is a Bethlehem star since neither object is a star and can happen at any time of the year and in this instance by coincidence is near Christmas time. When I used to do astronomy programs for kids groups and Scouts, I used to demonstrate with a baseball and a hoopla hoop, the base ball being the sun and the hoopla hoop being the ecliptic. The ecliptic is the path that the planets seem to take across the night sky. So just by coincidence from time to time from our perspective on earth they will appear close together, or in conjunction.

I remember reading some time ago that the distance between the Earth and the Sun is 93 million miles.

Is this what an Astronomical Unit is?

WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:38 am

Railsplitter wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:54 am

OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:35 am These conjunctions of planets happen fairly frequently in different combinations. The current one is Jupiter/Saturn. Venus and Mars also are involved in conjunctions with any two or more of the 4 planets mentioned capable of producing conjunctions. While the two planets appear to be very close together, one has to remember that at the time they looked the closest, Jupiter was 5.8 astronomical units from earth while Saturn was 10.7. One a.u. equals 92,955,807 miles, so Saturn was hundreds of millions of miles "behind" Jupiter. The statement that this current event has not happened for 800 years is not true. As I mentioned they happen fairly frequently. They have not appeared to be this close together in the sky for 800 years. Also it is a total misnomer to call it is a Bethlehem star since neither object is a star and can happen at any time of the year and in this instance by coincidence is near Christmas time. When I used to do astronomy programs for kids groups and Scouts, I used to demonstrate with a baseball and a hoopla hoop, the base ball being the sun and the hoopla hoop being the ecliptic. The ecliptic is the path that the planets seem to take across the night sky. So just by coincidence from time to time from our perspective on earth they will appear close together, or in conjunction.

I remember reading some time ago that the distance between the Earth and the Sun is 93 million miles.

Is this what an Astronomical Unit is?

Yup, if I can remember correctly from my schoolin.

Steve Warden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:39 am Just goin' by what I read, OC.

It's estimated that the last time humans witnessed this impressive sight was around the year 1226, according to Michael Shanahan, the director of the Liberty Science Center Planetarium in New Jersey.
https://www.today.com/news/christmas-st ... cs-t204471

Railsplitter wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:41 pm I didn't want to post this in the Amateur Astronomy thread because it was taken by Tom Polakis whom I believe is a professional.

Not sure of the magnification on this but obviously taken through a telescope.

bighomer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:00 pm Mighty poor but here you go.