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Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:26 pm
by geocash
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Someone please tell me what formula was used for the steel in the blades on this Colonel Coon. It's their #49 Stockman, built on a Queen's #49 pattern:
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:14 pm
by carrmillus
.....don't know about the steel, but I LIKE it!!!!!..............
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Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:28 pm
by Montanaman
It is a Colonel Coon in name only, so I would guess the steel is whatever Queen was using at the time, doubt it is D2 or ATS-34, probably 420HC.
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:39 pm
by kootenay joe
Montanaman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:28 pm
It is a Colonel Coon in name only, so I would guess the steel is whatever Queen was using at the time, doubt it is D2 or ATS-34, probably 420HC.
Did Queen also use 440C for their stainless blades ?
kj
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:41 pm
by knifeaholic
kootenay joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:39 pm
Montanaman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:28 pm
It is a Colonel Coon in name only, so I would guess the steel is whatever Queen was using at the time, doubt it is D2 or ATS-34, probably 420HC.
Did Queen also use 440C for their stainless blades ?
kj
Up through the mid to late 70's, yes, then switched to 440A. Then later to 420HC and D2. All D2 knives were tang stamped PH-D2.
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:46 pm
by kootenay joe
Thank you Steve. Good to have this info posted here as 'forgetfulness' definitely increases with age.
kj
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:47 pm
by Steve Warden
geocash wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:26 pm
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Someone please tell me what formula was used for the steel in the blades on this Colonel Coon. It's their #49 Stockman, built on a Queen's #49 pattern:
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, as well!!
With a knife that looks that good, and the fact it's a product by Queen, does it really matter what steel it's sportin'?
Should you find out it's a steel you're not keen on, let me know. I'll send you my address, you send me the knife, and it shall trouble you no more.
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:33 pm
by TPK
Looks great geocash!
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:13 pm
by geocash
Thank you, everybody. Since Queen was using their own pattern it makes sense they would also use their own materials so I feel pretty good about 420HC.
Steve, I appreciate you generosity but don't get too excited. This would be one of the last knives I would part with.
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:50 pm
by Steve Warden
geocash wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:13 pm
Steve, I appreciate you generosity but don't get too excited. This would be one of the last knives I would part with.
You're a wise man
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:54 pm
by Modern Slip Joints
All of my Queen made Colonel Coon folding knives that came in boxes came in orange two piece boxes that have "high carbon 440 stainless blades" written on one end. When 440 is not advertised as having a higher alphabet suffix than A it is safe to assume that it is 440A. During the years they were made Queen's standard stainless was 420HC. In use I doubt that you'd be able to tell one from the other.
While many of Queen's Robeson pocket knives are stamped PH-D2 I have not seen that stamp on a Queen made Colonel Coon.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe all the Queen made Robesons and Colonel Coons were made for SMKW.
By the way, that is a beautiful stag #49. Is there any chance that you'll treat us to a picture of its pile side?
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:14 pm
by geocash
Modern Slip Joints wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:54 pm
All of my Queen made Colonel Coon folding knives that came in boxes came in orange two piece boxes that have "high carbon 440 stainless blades" written on one end. When 440 is not advertised as having a higher alphabet suffix than A it is safe to assume that it is 440A. During the years they were made Queen's standard stainless was 420HC. In use I doubt that you'd be able to tell one from the other.
While many of Queen's Robeson pocket knives are stamped PH-D2 I have not seen that stamp on a Queen made Colonel Coon.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe all the Queen made Robesons and Colonel Coons were made for SMKW.
By the way, that is a beautiful stag #49.Is there any chance that you'll treat us to a picture of its pile side?
Very good. Your comment motivated me to find the box & look more carefully. I thought it just had "CC49" but on the other end, in small light print, it has "high carbon 440 stainless blades" just as you said. Well, I had the answer all along but at least I got to show off the knife. And since you asked so nicely, of course I'll show the other side, too. Thanks.
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:03 pm
by Modern Slip Joints
Its sides are very well matched. Both look great!
Re: Steel ID
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:53 pm
by carrmillus
kootenay joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:46 pm
Thank you Steve. Good to have this info posted here as 'forgetfulness' definitely increases with age.
kj
...wait till you turn 83!!!!........
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Re: Steel ID
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:55 pm
by carrmillus
...correction..83.75!!!!.........
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