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Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Paladin » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:47 pm

Guys,
I got this one in a recent batch of stuff I bought and I have no clue as to what it might be called. Up to now I just have called it 'a small katana'. It is well made and the blade has clear temper lines on the blade. One of the little icons on the sheath is gone. It is a wicked weapon, whatever it is called and sure would appreciate any info anyone might give me.
I will post some photos so check it out and let me hear from youo on it.

Ray
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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:17 pm

Ray, the symbols in the handle pin look a lot like an Islamic symbol of the crescent moon and star. The placement of the star is off, it’s usually placed centered and outside of the moon. But that could be off due to the other symbols. I can’t make out the animal on that pin, is it a cat of some kind and what is above the animal?
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Post by Paladin » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:54 pm

The animals on the handle and sheath are, or at least seem to be, horses. I'll post some more photos.

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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:22 pm

I think that’s a goat on the handle pin. I see two horns and one ear, plus the tail is short and stubby. Wish I could help you more on the symbols, I think those are the key to where it came from. I’m still leaning toward somewhere in the Middle East and a Muslim country of origin. But don’t know what that style of blade is called. Katanas usually have more of a tanto look on the end and that one is very curved. It does look to be a nice quality piece.
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Post by zzyzzogeton » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:26 pm

Ray, I think I've seen that horse/star/moon combo on a flag somewhere.

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Post by Paladin » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:39 pm

zzyzzogeton wrote:
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Ray, I think I've seen that horse/star/moon combo on a flag somewhere.

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I think that’s a goat on the handle pin. I see two horns and one ear, plus the tail is short and stubby. Wish I could help you more on the symbols, I think those are the key to where it came from. I’m still leaning toward somewhere in the Middle East and a Muslim country of origin. But don’t know what that style of blade is called. Katanas usually have more of a tanto look on the end and that one is very curved. It does look to be a nice quality piece.
SSK,
I believe you are correct about the goat part. It is a wicked piece, isn't it.
ZZZ, I'll research some on the flag aspect.

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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Madmarco » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Paladin wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:47 pm
Guys,
I got this one in a recent batch of stuff I bought and I have no clue as to what it might be called. Up to now I just have called it 'a small katana'. It is well made and the blade has clear temper lines on the blade. One of the little icons on the sheath is gone. It is a wicked weapon, whatever it is called and sure would appreciate any info anyone might give me.
I will post some photos so check it out and let me hear from youo on it.

Ray
Ray! I was just on this site, www.knivesaustralia.com.au , and under the "Trade Knives" thread, they had a very similar knife there, albeit much less fancy, and it was described as a "Boning " knife! 8)
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Post by 1967redrider » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:44 pm

Nice looking piece, Ray. I love that hamon line. ::tu::

It has a certain Japanese look to me, like a curved Tanto short sword.
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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Paladin » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:08 pm

Madmarco wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:53 pm
Paladin wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:47 pm
Guys,
I got this one in a recent batch of stuff I bought and I have no clue as to what it might be called. Up to now I just have called it 'a small katana'. It is well made and the blade has clear temper lines on the blade. One of the little icons on the sheath is gone. It is a wicked weapon, whatever it is called and sure would appreciate any info anyone might give me.
I will post some photos so check it out and let me hear from youo on it.

Ray
Ray! I was just on this site, www.knivesaustralia.com.au , and under the "Trade Knives" thread, they had a very similar knife there, albeit much less fancy, and it was described as a "Boning " knife! 8)
I'll check it out.

Ray
1967redrider wrote:
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Nice looking piece, Ray. I love that hamon line. ::tu::

It has a certain Japanese look to me, like a curved Tanto short sword.
My thoughts exactly on this.

Ray
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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by herbva » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:37 pm

Very cool knife! From the pictures it looks more curved than a boning knife. Maybe a middle eastern or mongolian scimitar? https://www.wish.com/product/5db92e3261 ... &share=web
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Post by QTCut5 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:59 pm

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Post by Paladin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:30 pm

QTCut5 wrote:
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Looks like a Sikh Kirpan to me.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALe ... 80&bih=578
The blade shape sure fits on those but it is hard to tell about size. This sucker is 19 or 20 inches long. including handle.

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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Montanaman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:07 pm

Without a doubt it is made in traditional Japanese style. The mark on the Habaki, blade collar, reminds me of Don Polzien, but I cannot confirm this, might be an older piece.

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Post by Paladin » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:53 pm

Montanaman wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:07 pm
Without a doubt it is made in traditional Japanese style. The mark on the Habaki, blade collar, reminds me of Don Polzien, but I cannot confirm this, might be an older piece.
Hey, thanks mucho and I'll check him out.

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Re: Anyone Know What this is Called?

Post by Old Folder » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:18 pm

Nice knife Ray.
Always good to observe new cutlery that we can all discuss and learn from.
I believe your knife would be in the "Skinning" kitchen and or Butcher knife category?
Originating from Japan. It has many Japanese characteristics, such as:
Copper Alloy Blade Collar (Habaki) located on many Japanese blades, to include "Katana Samurai and Tanto."

The "Wavy" pattern (Hasaki) on the entire length of the blade edge is known to be called the "Harmon Line."
Instead of going into great detail of the "Harmon Line," I have posted a website below that is very informative
and well worth the read. It was posted within "Blade Magazine" by Steve Shackleford in October 3, 2012 that I
hung onto.
https://blademag.com/knifemaking/the-ha ... hy-and-how

However, I am totally stumped by the "Galloping Horse" and the "Circular Logos" ::shrug::
Your knife would certainly be a keeper in my home. I can visualize my Wife preparing a fresh "Duck" dinner.
It's always important to know what you don't know.
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