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Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:08 pm
by just bob
What is the correct name for the shield on the knife in the first picture? I thought dog bone, but that doesn't seem to bring up any results. Then the knife in the 2nd picture has a very unusual opener. There is a cap lifter in the lower part, but is part of the top broken off or was it made like this? Is there anything like this on another brand of knives?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:28 pm
by Railsplitter
The shield in the first picture is called a Bullock shield.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:36 pm
by just bob
Railsplitter wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:28 pm The shield in the first picture is called a Bullock shield.
Thank you for that! Comes right up on Google and looks as if the shield has been around for a long time.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:31 pm
by 1967redrider
Is the cracked ice shell knife related to a radio station? The strangely shaped blade could have something to do with "radio" if so.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:10 pm
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Is the edge of the odd blade on the second knife sharp or dull? If it is dull, then my guess is maybe a letter opener? If it is sharp, then maybe a wire stripper?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:25 pm
by just bob
I don't own this knife so can't provide much additional info on it. I spotted it and was curious about it. I thought Ray probably had at least 6 of them. Here is a pic of the back.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:31 pm
by Madmarco
just bob wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:25 pm I don't own this knife so can't provide much additional info on it. I spotted it and was curious about it. I thought Ray probably had at least 6 of them. Here is a pic of the back.
Bob! If you look at the base of the odd blade, right above the "B & B/R" on the tang, it appears to be a bottle opener, so the top rounded section might be an old style can-opener. ::shrug:: 8)

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:43 pm
by Gone2Three
just bob wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:36 pm
Railsplitter wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:28 pm The shield in the first picture is called a Bullock shield.
Thank you for that! Comes right up on Google and looks as if the shield has been around for a long time.
Were you the lucky guy who won the auction?... I'd love to see some additional pictures if and when it arrives. I was at work when the listing closed ::mdm::

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:42 pm
by edge213
Can opener, bottle opener.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:23 pm
by just bob
Wow here's another one so it is as made. David I've never seen a can opener with only one tine or prong. Are there others?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-USA-B- ... SwRtlfpDLn

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:58 pm
by edge213
I've seen them ,but I can't recall the brands. Seem all have been cheap knives.
I will look around to see if I have one.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:16 pm
by edge213
just bob wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:23 pm Wow here's another one so it is as made. David I've never seen a can opener with only one tine or prong. Are there others?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-USA-B- ... SwRtlfpDLn
Bob, I do have this one. Its Imperial.
I will keep looking through my accumulation for any others I may have.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:24 pm
by just bob
David now that you've posted that I've seen many knives with one prong openers. The knife in the OP just had a way different design - I thought, but that must be what it is a cap lifter and a can opener. I'll bet that was about as handy as a 3rd thumb and probably why that particular style like in the OP never caught on?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:34 pm
by knife7knut
just bob wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:25 pm I don't own this knife so can't provide much additional info on it. I spotted it and was curious about it. I thought Ray probably had at least 6 of them. Here is a pic of the back.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Bob! :mrgreen:
First time I've ever seen a can opener like that;if it is indeed a can opener. There doesn't seem to be any place to lever the blade to open a can.Starting the process might be problematic. The e-Bay one says it was made by B&B which was a distributor of letter openers;knives;and other promotional items.They were not as far as I know manufacturers.I have numerous items by them including a large version of the George Washington knife and a letter opener that has a funny folder knife for a handle. The OP's knife looks like it may have been made by Imperial.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:30 am
by MT-Vessel
Is the curved blade for cutting the old school foil/wax/plastic cover off corked wine bottles? Wine.... good idea! ::ds:: My plonk comes in a box or a bottle with threaded cap. ::shrug::

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:36 am
by philco
Just Bob on knife number two, do you have a view of the secondary blade fully opened ? Also it appears to me that the curve of that blade furthest from the body of the knife is sharpened (at least some). Is that correct or am I seeing things ?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:39 am
by just bob
philco wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:36 am Just Bob on knife number two, can you please show a view of the secondary blade fully opened ? Also it appears to me that the curve of that blade furthest from the body of the knife is sharpened (at least some). Is that correct or am I seeing things ?

I don't own the knife. I saw the knife on line and was curious about it.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:56 am
by philco
Gotcha.

You've got my curiosity stirred up with this one. ::hmm::

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:00 am
by cody6268
Just throwing something off the top of my head--insulation slitter for electrical wiring? I know, however, that the Klein Romex blade is much different.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:10 am
by Mumbleypeg
It does appear it would work for cutting the “cover” off corked wine bottles. But if that was the case why doesn’t it have a corkscrew? I think it must have some other purpose. ::shrug::

Ken

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:17 am
by 1967redrider
It looks like it's somewhat sharp on the outer scroll, I'm guessing for cutting champagne/wine bottle foil.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:23 am
by edge213
I still say can opener, bottle opener.
I doubt this knife is for opening champagne. It was probably a $1.00 knife when new.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:25 am
by MT-Vessel
Yes, the lack of a cork screw may sink my hypothesis. I will keep my thinking cap on as I top up my glass with a nice screw top red. ::super_happy::

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:55 am
by just bob
The back of that blade is much clearer on the other Ebay knife. This knife was advertising for electric fuel pumps. Here is that link again. I was thinking cutting twine on hay bales but might also have worked on gas lines. General purpose cutting?




https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-USA-B- ... SwRtlfpDLn

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:20 am
by Mumbleypeg
1967redrider wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:31 pm Is the cracked ice shell knife related to a radio station? The strangely shaped blade could have something to do with "radio" if so.
An internet search found WSAL 1230 to be radio station in Logansport, IN. I speculate Gene Waters Farm Corner was a program on the station. Now we just have to determine why/how a knife with that odd blade was relevant to it.

Ken