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Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:51 pm
by Doc B
I've had this Craftsman knife sitting around for awhile. This is the first fixed-blade I've rehandled. It originally was done in leather rings. I had thought I might put bone on it; however, didn't have anything thick enough, to match the pommel end. The latest run of GEC had some knives covered in mesquite...so...a light went off, in my head. I've got an endless supply of mesquite at the ranch and I use it for most of my outdoor grilling and smoking. It was a little tricky, with my limited armamentarium, to get some slabs out...but, I got it done. Mesquite is a
very hard wood! You can barely cut it with a very sharp knife. I generally cut my firewood from dried / dead limbs and will have to resharpen my chainsaw after cutting a small pile. I don't think this will be my last time to use it. I kinda like the look...and it has a connection to the property. Happened to have the perfect size sheath, too.
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:55 pm
by glennbad
Looks ready to put into use, nice job!
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:05 pm
by orvet
Nice job!
I have some mesquite but haven't used it yet.
That is some incentive for me because that looks good!
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:32 pm
by zzyzzogeton
With a bifurcated tang and double pommel pins, it was obviously a Western made hunting knife. With that style of clip point, it is most likely an L44, an L44-1/2 or an L36.
What is the blade length and overall length?
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:51 pm
by Byrd
Doc, that's sweet! I'd carry that.
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:31 pm
by kennedy knives
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:36 pm
by Colonel26
Great job on the Western/Craftsman! it's ready for another several generations of work!
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:59 pm
by Doc B
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:32 pm
With a bifurcated tang and double pommel pins, it was obviously a Western made hunting knife. With that style of clip point, it is most likely an L44, an L44-1/2 or an L36.
What is the blade length and overall length?
The blade length is 5 1/4 inches and overall length is 9 1/2 inches. I had been told it was an L36; but, hadn't had a chance to verify that. Would that be correct?
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:12 pm
by zzyzzogeton
It doesn't match any known Western, per se. The L36 has a 5-1/2" blade, the L44-5 has a 5" blade.
I suspect that with a 5-1/4" blade, and looking at the slightly rounded tip, it is most likely an L36.
Western's are notorious for having blades that are slightly under the advertised lengths. The WW2 Sharks are always said to have 6" blades, but most are about 5-7/8", so if it was a tad short to begin with, tip shortening would get it closer to 5-1/4".
As a Craftsman offering, it would not have been marketed as an "L36", but what ever Sears would have called it. It doesn't show up in any of the Sears Christmas catalogs, so it was probably advertised in the Spring/Summer catalogs which no one has collected, digitzed and put on line, like the Christmas catalogs have. Or at least if they have been, I haven't found them online yet.
IF the stamp has a reference to the patent number, that would indicate that the knife was made before 1953. Lack of a patent reference would imply that it was 1954 or later, but maybe not. Negative info doesn't prove anything.
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:42 pm
by herbva
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:43 pm
by doglegg
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:52 am
by Doc B
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:12 pm
It doesn't match any known Western, per se. The L36 has a 5-1/2" blade, the L44-5 has a 5" blade.
I suspect that with a 5-1/4" blade, and looking at the slightly rounded tip, it is most likely an L36.
Western's are notorious for having blades that are slightly under the advertised lengths. The WW2 Sharks are always said to have 6" blades, but most are about 5-7/8", so if it was a tad short to begin with, tip shortening would get it closer to 5-1/4".
As a Craftsman offering, it would not have been marketed as an "L36", but what ever Sears would have called it. It doesn't show up in any of the Sears Christmas catalogs, so it was probably advertised in the Spring/Summer catalogs which no one has collected, digitzed and put on line, like the Christmas catalogs have. Or at least if they have been, I haven't found them online yet.
IF the stamp has a reference to the patent number, that would indicate that the knife was made before 1953. Lack of a patent reference would imply that it was 1954 or later, but maybe not. Negative info doesn't prove anything.
ZZ... It says Pat No 1767479, Over Made in the USA. Thanks so much for the info!
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:32 am
by zzyzzogeton
Of all the NA hardwoods, only American (Southern) Chestnut and Ironwood are harder than Mesquite, Chestnut slightly and Ironwood significantly.
Mesquite has been used for tool handles for hundreds of years in Texas and Mexico, and the rest of the SW.
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:50 am
by Doc B
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:32 am
Of all the NA hardwoods, only American (Southern) Chestnut and Ironwood are harder than Mesquite, Chestnut slightly and Ironwood significantly.
Mesquite has been used for tool handles for hundreds of years in Texas and Mexico, and the rest of the SW.
...another interesting bit of info, I was not aware of.
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:33 am
by Reverand
I had no idea that mesquite wood looked so pretty. That truly has a beautiful color and grain pattern. Great choice!
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:48 pm
by Doc B
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:29 pm
by cody6268
Great job! I've seen a few Mesquite-handled options from Moore Maker, and they're gorgeous. I swear, I've seen mesquite in the BBQ/Smoker supply section of a local supermarket. Should pick some up.
In the building we store our firewood, there is chestnut, maple, oak, ash, cherrywood, and hickory. Chestnut will dull a chain pretty quickly. I'm going to use some of it for knife handles, as to save some cash. Though, for some, I want G-10.
I just tore a Schrade USA 94OT apart as the blades had too much side-to-side wobble due to the Swinden key pin loosening up. Gonna be a one-blade (ditching skinner blade), with wood handles from the woodhouse. I figure it will be a good starter to learn Swinden construction, since unlike the 8OT on my repair list, there's nothing to really replace (main blade is broke on 8OT).
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:47 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Beautiful work Doc!
Next you need to try some Bois d’Arc wood. Fairly easy to work when green, but when it dries it’s hard and tough as solid rock.
For all of y’all who think of mesquite wood only for grilling, you need to get out more!
Mesquite makes some stunningly beautiful furniture.
https://texmes.com/
Ken
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:37 pm
by glennbad
I've only done one knife with Mesquite. The wood I was given for it was a crosscut section. Looks quite different than how yours turned out, interesting stuff though!
I'll probably pull some of it out and do another mod with it...
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:57 pm
by Doc B
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:47 pm
Beautiful work Doc!
Next you need to try some Bois d’Arc wood. Fairly easy to work when green, but when it dries it’s hard and tough as solid rock.
For all of y’all who think of mesquite wood only for grilling, you need to get out more!
Mesquite makes some stunningly beautiful furniture.
https://texmes.com/
Ken
Ken, I remember Bois d'Arc, growing up in DFW. Don't ever remember running in to one anywhere around here.
Re: Craftsman Fixed Blade
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:01 pm
by Doc B
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:37 pm
I've only done one knife with Mesquite. The wood I was given for it was a crosscut section. Looks quite different than how yours turned out, interesting stuff though!
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I'll probably pull some of it out and do another mod with it...
Glenn, that's awesome! I can see where a crosscut would give a better pattern, especially in a smaller knife, like a slip joint. I didn't know how the grain orientation would affect it's ability to break...especially in such a thin slice, as required. It's dang hard wood, though. You can see in my first photo, how the chainsaw was burning the wood in places.
