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Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:18 pm
by Gone2Three
Good afternoon friends,
I purchased this old Camillus knife online from a little antique shop. I offered them $25 shipped and it was sent out to me arriving just the other day. It was pretty rough looking, but hadn't had time until now to clean up a little and post.
Just curious if anyone here can help with what exactly I've acquired. From my research it dates back to the 40's ? ... what model it could be? The blades have some pitting, can't exactly say if one has been modified...but it's a neat old knife. Glad to show it off to y'all...
Have a blessed day!

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:54 pm
by Steve Warden
I can't help with info, but that sure is a beauty!
Sweet score!!

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:06 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Nice catch!
::tu::

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:36 pm
by herbva
Very nice find! The tang stamp should have a "U.S.A." hiding under the CAMILLUS NY. If so, this knife has the 4-line tang stamp known as the "4-liner", said to be used from the early 1930's to the mid 1940's. It's not one of the patterns I am familiar with , but perhaps one of the Camillus experts here will chime in. The exact length (with the blades closed) might help. ::tu::

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:44 pm
by tongueriver
Nice catch! It appears (from my basement computer and without washing my spectacles), that the master clip blade has been broken off and re-profiled on this old soldier cattle knife. Looks like Rogers Bone Company bone covers. Clip, sheepfoot and spey. I am guessing pre-war (II).

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:48 pm
by Doc B
I'm thinking it is a #70? Here's one...but it's got a different shield...and blade might have been a spear on yours? Maybe a relative ::shrug::
Someone with more info should be able to help.
viewtopic.php?t=50928

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:52 pm
by Gone2Three
Steve Warden wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:54 pm I can't help with info, but that sure is a beauty!
Sweet score!!
Thank you Steve! ::handshake::

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:54 pm
by Gone2Three
Meridian_Mike wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:06 pm Nice catch!
::tu::
Thanks Mike! Y'a never know what you'll find when knife fishing ::woot::

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:55 pm
by Gone2Three
herbva wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:36 pm Very nice find! The tang stamp should have a "U.S.A." hiding under the CAMILLUS NY. If so, this knife has the 4-line tang stamp known as the "4-liner", said to be used from the early 1930's to the mid 1940's. It's not one of the patterns I am familiar with , but perhaps one of the Camillus experts here will chime in. The exact length (with the blades closed) might help. ::tu::
Appreciate your information Herb, it measures approximately 4" closed. Thank you for your help! ::handshake::

Yep! Found the USA hiding on one of the blades

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:59 pm
by Gone2Three
tongueriver wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:44 pm Nice catch! It appears (from my basement computer and without washing my spectacles), that the master clip blade has been broken off and re-profiled on this old soldier cattle knife. Looks like Rogers Bone Company bone covers. Clip, sheepfoot and spey. I am guessing pre-war (II).
Appreciate the additional information, I thought maybe that one blade might have been reshaped. This is a really neat knife and overall and I couldn't be happier with my investment. ::tu::

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:03 pm
by Gone2Three
Doc B wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:48 pm I'm thinking it is a #70? Here's one...but it's got a different shield...and blade might have been a spear on yours? Maybe a relative ::shrug::
Someone with more info should be able to help.
viewtopic.php?t=50928
Thank you Doc, this is good information to work with! I appreciate everyone helping me out here ::handshake::

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:31 am
by kootenay joe
You say "approximately 4" closed". In knife collecting we do not go by "approximate". Length is usually given to closest 1/16th of an inch, although most size increments are in 1/8th of an inch. Size is needed to know which pattern number it is.
Yours is a "Cattle knife" pattern. My guess is 3 5/8" or 3 3/4" closed. A 4" Cattle knife is very big for this pattern.
And i agree, pre WW II and after WW I. A good old well used Camillus Cattle knife.
kj

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:20 am
by Gone2Three
kootenay joe wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:31 am You say "approximately 4" closed". In knife collecting we do not go by "approximate". Length is usually given to closest 1/16th of an inch, although most size increments are in 1/8th of an inch. Size is needed to know which pattern number it is.
Yours is a "Cattle knife" pattern. My guess is 3 5/8" or 3 3/4" closed. A 4" Cattle knife is very big for this pattern.
And i agree, pre WW II and after WW I. A good old well used Camillus Cattle knife.
kj
Sorry Kj, had to get the little measuring tape out to get an accurate reading, and your guess is correct at 3 5/8" ::tu:: thanks for helping me out here

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:46 am
by carrmillus
.....does it have 3 backsprings??...I have a knife that's similar, but it's closer to 3 5/8" closed and has a plain bar shield and the 3 backsprings!!...... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ............

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:31 am
by Gone2Three
carrmillus wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:46 am .....does it have 3 backsprings??...I have a knife that's similar, but it's closer to 3 5/8" closed and has a plain bar shield and the 3 backsprings!!...... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ............
Here's a few more pictures, would you be able to post yours? Would love to see it!

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:37 pm
by carrmillus
.........wish I could post pictures!!!!.................. ::facepalm:: ......................

Re: Online antique shop find

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:20 pm
by Vit_213
I think this is one of the varieties of #14 pattern... :roll: