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Camillus R.I.P.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:28 am
by upnorth
Some of you may have seen these auctions a couple of weeks ago. Some well preserved examples from a salesman's roll, they inspired me to teeter on the edge of credit card disaster!
I gotta enroll in the 12 step program . . . . . soon!
Anyway, please enjoy, and tell me what you know about them also!! I know a lot of you know about Camillus. I, on the other hand have not ventured too far in that direction, until now!

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:48 am
by W5RWU
"I gotta enroll in the 12 step program"
Hi my name is Randy and I have not bought a knife in 12 hours!
I understand the feeling !
We need camco to you fill you in on camillus , I also dont know about them, but they are looking good!
w5rwu ::tu:: ::tu::

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:26 pm
by stockman
Hello upnorth, nice knives all three. I have not paid attention to Camillus over the years, that was a mistake. I have been watching for them recently.

Stockman

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:03 pm
by gmusic
Very nice north guy ::tu:: ::tu::

Excellent find!

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:33 pm
by orvet
Charlie, those Camillus’ are looking GOOD! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::drool::

The funny thing about Camillus is that a lot of people who don't give the Camillus branded knives a second look; often have a good number of knives in their collections that are made by Camillus for other companies. ::shrug::

Dale

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:31 pm
by Duffy
Orvet, did Camillus make the Remington R12 trappers back in the 1990's? I've got one and it looks exactly like a Camillus trapper that I have.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:23 pm
by Gr8Scout
Camillus knives are doing the same thing Schrade products did a couple of years ago; that is spiking way up in price. In a year or two, those will be worth less than half what you paid for them. Doesn't matter if they are recent production, or older ones. Most ridiculous thing I've seen lately is a couple models from the Yello Jaket series going for well over $150. Insane.

Yes, Duffy, Camillus made those Remington reproductions in the 90s.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:06 pm
by Duffy
Thanks for the info scout. I'm sorry Upnorth, I didn't mean to highjack your post. I get a question on my mind and if I don't ask it then, I'll forget what I wanted to know. :oops:

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:35 am
by upnorth
Gr8Scout wrote:Camillus knives are doing the same thing Schrade products did a couple of years ago; that is spiking way up in price. In a year or two, those will be worth less than half what you paid for them. Doesn't matter if they are recent production, or older ones. Most ridiculous thing I've seen lately is a couple models from the Yello Jaket series going for well over $150. Insane.
You may be right, Scoutman, but I think these "samples" will hold up in value. How many are out there?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:49 am
by jonet143
old bone knives will grow in value while the newer will settle. imo

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:08 am
by upnorth
Duffy wrote:Thanks for the info scout. I'm sorry Upnorth, I didn't mean to highjack your post. I get a question on my mind and if I don't ask it then, I'll forget what I wanted to know. :oops:
As my kids say, Duffy, "It's all good!"

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:44 am
by msteele6
I agree with jonet143, the old bone handled ones will retain their value.

I've never seen one with three blades like that moose(?), does it have three backsprings?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:46 am
by upnorth
Yes, three backsprings. Here's the other side. Interesting blade arrangement, no??

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:13 am
by jonet143
wow. and the swedges! extreme good!

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:33 am
by Sauconian
Great shape on those blades.

Interesting that the tang stamps are different.

Fran

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:07 am
by gmusic
Look at those blades, outstanding Charlie!

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:02 am
by msteele6
On the tang stamps, Goins shows that combination, arched on secondaries, straight on master as being used c. 1915-1916.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:33 pm
by stockman
Hay Charlie, where does the clip blade fall when closed on the stock knife? Is it on the outside or in the center? Maybe like a whittler. I don't know much about Camillus and how they did things. The other network is beating your knives up a little. Talk about blade welds two different tang stamps on the same knife,maybe some of the old Camillus guys can come in and set the record stright. We all have Camillus stuff made on contract. Your knives are always very interesting, and always NICE! I think msteele6 had the answer on the tang stamp question.

Stockman

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:07 pm
by upnorth
Stockman, the main falls between the secondaries, sort of like a whittler.And yes, Bernie Levine is pretty sceptical. I will research all his objections, as I want to be sure these are correct. I think they are, as they came from a factory insider. He wants to stay out of the picture for now.

Here's the link for those who would like to view the slugfest :lol: :lol: !
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=519887

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:19 pm
by upnorth
msteele6 wrote:On the tang stamps, Goins shows that combination, arched on secondaries, straight on master as being used c. 1915-1916.
Thanks for looking that up, msteele! I've seen old Case and Remington knives with two or three different stamps on the same knife.
It's not unreasonable IMO, because some stamps won't fit, and sometimes there is inventory of blades unused, for years! Its amazing what Queen has in its store rooms!

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:15 am
by Phil Gibbs
Charlie,

As these knives were from the Factory Collection, I think it is safe to assume they were the "first of that model" samples.

I hope my post at "the other place" makes a difference.

Best regards,

Phil

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:29 am
by W5RWU
Phil ,glad to see you here!! come back soon !
Randy -w5rwu

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:14 pm
by upnorth
Phil Gibbs wrote:Charlie,

As these knives were from the Factory Collection, I think it is safe to assume they were the "first of that model" samples.

I hope my post at "the other place" makes a difference.

Best regards,

Phil
Yes, Phil, your posts have helped immensely.
Once again, allow me to refer everyone to "the other place" with this link;
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=519887

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:39 pm
by stockman
Charlie, I think that the knives are of high value, a piece of history. Patterns of knives to come. They are a nice addition to your collection.

Stockman

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:14 pm
by upnorth
I'm forming that opinion also, stockman. Interesting twist of events.
I assume you've read Levine's forum?