Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

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Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by ThePointyEnd » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:12 am

Here’s a signal corps linesman toolkit I just took delivery. I am not sure which period this would fall under or if the kit is matched correctly. But I figure there’s not much discussion about the kit in general (other than the knife) that I want to share some detailed photos.

Oh btw why was this kit still issued after gerber and leatherman multitools were commonplace?
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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by doglegg » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:22 am

Sweet kit. ::nod:: ::nod::

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by Mumbleypeg » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:42 am

Your kit consists of a Camillus knife and Utica pliers which appear to have been modified at some point with some handle wraps. So I’d question seriously that it is as issued originally. From what I can see in the pictures the sheath looks unused. My guess would be someone at some point pieced the kit together. Since you say you don’t know what period it is from, why do you conclude it was post-multitool existence? TL-29 knives pre-date multitools.

WRT the question posed “would a multitool work better?”, my answer is, it depends. I carry a multitool regularly while working on my ranch. (Usually a Leatherman PST). If it’s all I have at the time, I use it. But if my toolbox with real pliers and real screwdrivers is handy, that’s what I use. The right dedicated tool for the job is better than a “one size fits all” tool. JMO

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by ThePointyEnd » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:04 am

not this kit specifically but just read of people using these while multitools were already commonplace. The sheath does seem in very good condition even though the pliers does show signs of sheath wear ::hmm::

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by cody6268 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:48 am

I actually carry a combo like this, even with my multitool. A good supplement, but not really a replacement. I often have a TL-29 as a work knife (compact, sturdy, and the scraper is really handy for well, scraping, not just wire stripping--I often use it to remove paint and buildup), and even with something like my Super Tool having a pair of 6" or 7" linesman's pliers in your pocket is great. I use a 6" pair of Knipex, which are compact, but are sturdier, and better cutters than the Leatherman. With both, I can hold the nut with the Leatherman, and turn the bolt with the Knipex for example. And for really tough jobs, I have 10" Kleins and fencing pliers.


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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by ThePointyEnd » Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:51 am

I was comparing last night to the leatherman surge, gerber centerdrive, and even some SAK. Now I can see why people use these. The TL29 screwdriver blade has a longer reach, slimmer profile, which rivals the inline screwdrivers of multitools and SAK (except the most recent centerdrives). And the pliers while old has better fit and finish...you don’t see too many pliers nowadays with matching tooth patterns, and these Utica’s are checkered patterns too and the jaws are matched in all directions!

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by eveled » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:23 pm

Even though these are on the smaller side. It is really tough to beat a real set of linesman pliers.

Multi tools are ok for emergencies but dedicated tools are far more useable.

The downfall of the TL29 is the lack of a Phillips driver.

For me a decent 6 way driver, 6 inch channel locks, and a Buck 110 are far better than a Leatherman. I do keep linesman pliers handy too.

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by glennbad » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:46 pm

My thought...while a multitool is quite handy and compact, to utilize all the various functions of the TL-29 and linesmans pliers using the multitool, you would continually have to open knife blades, close them, open the pliers, close the pliers, etc. And you certainly couldn't grab something and cut it at the same time with only a multitool.

I know multitools are standard issue now for many tool kits in the armed forces. And there are certainly some extra widgets on a multitool that would make it more handy. Perhaps the Lineman tool kit/pouch is a little outdated, but for the tasks it is being asked to do, I think it is the better choice.

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by jerryd6818 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:50 pm

What everyone is saying about the proper tool for the job is spot on and that's what the signal tool kit is. To answer your original question "Would a multitool work better", the answer is a quick and emphatic NO! Those multi-tool contraptions are "ok" in a pinch if you have nothing else but as has been said, where the rubber meets the road, there's nothing like a tool that was designed and built for the job at hand.
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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by royal0014 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:08 pm

multitool =
jack of all trades, master of NONE ....
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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by cody6268 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:37 pm

royal0014 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:08 pm
multitool =
jack of all trades, master of NONE ....
Exactly. If I'm going to handle light hobby stuff or just a quick temporary fix or tighten of a bolt/screw, I'm using my multitool. Else, I'm going back to the toolbox. MTs cannot handle a lot of strain (including some manuals telling you specifically NOT to twist the pliers--which can be found in the leaflet that comes with some SAKs), their drivers are often too short, and their files (except for diamond ones--they're quite good) rarely even come close to a proper file.

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by btrwtr » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:07 pm

The military had the liberty of putting whatever pliers and knives they wanted in these sets. I am sure they used different manufacturers of leather, knife and pliers to put these together and many combinations are possible. As pointed out it's hard for a multi tool to compete with the use of this set in a one on one basis (TL-29 knife and pliers only) but the extra functions available in multi tools would be an unfair advantage.
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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by bighomer » Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:38 am

Put me in the tl-29 and pliers camp, those muti- tool thinga-ma-gigs are a poor tool at best. ymmv. ::handshake::

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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by garddogg56 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:12 am

I think it depends on the trade.As an electrician my LM is the most used tool in my pouch or Kennedy box,when used properly a LM has a lot of uses and is handy a TL-29 is awkward at best and a LM needle-nose will do as well as a pair of pliers.Just my two cents worth ::shrug::
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Re: Would a multitool work better? CS-34, TL-29, TL-13-A

Post by Colonel26 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:16 am

I’m with the rest of ya. A set of channel locks for slip joints, Klein lineman pliers for just about everything from fencing to electrical, Klein 10 in one screwdriver, and a SAK. Covers about all the bases. Throw in the channel lock fencing pliers and a hammer if needed. The rest is in the toolbox.

I have a Leatherman Supertool that gets used quite a bit. Especially as pliers and cutters. Mine have the replaceable cutters and they do a very good job especially on string trimmer line!
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