Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

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Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by herbva » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:18 pm

I just received this 62055 from an auction I won on the bay, and I think, at the very least, the clip has been replaced and probably is a fake. But, before I get my panties in a wad and contact the seller, I would like your opinions, please. I just got it about 20 minutes ago, but what I see so far: The clip is the wrong shape, has no swedge at all, and has been heavily ground down. The curve between the tip and the nail mark is, for lack of a better description, way too curvy. Also, I can see where the back of the clip where the tang starts has been altered by filing or grinding to match up with the end of the spring. The "CASE XX" lettering just doesn't look right. I've looked at a bunch of my other CASE XX's and none have this type of font. The letters seem a little crooked, too fat, sharp, deep and perhaps are newly struck. Maybe there is a burn mark from heating right where the "XX" is. The pen doesn't match the clip at all, and is just what I would expect from a knife of this age, some pitting and it has a smooth surface. Also, the clip has a strong 1/2 stop and the pen has no 1/2 stop, and the other 2 - 055"s I own have no 1/2 stops on either blade. However, I don't see any evidence of this knife having been disassembled to replace the clip. Also, the clip is about 1/4" short, but I don't see the usual characteristics of a blade that has had a broken tip. ::teary_eyes:: Thanks for your input!
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:36 pm

Boy Herb you may be right. At the very least I would say that someone buffed the blades but used something different on each blade. That main blade has a lot of stripes from top of the spine to the edge and the other one doesn’t. So makes me wonder if this has been replaced? Otherwise, why would you buff them differently? Curious what others think.
Plus that area around the pins where they spun the pins looks fresh.
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by just bob » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:51 pm

Any possibility the master blade has been welded at the tang? There's a lot of that going around.
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by RalphAlsip » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:27 pm

My speculation is that it is a legit XX 62055 and the clip blade was buffed, but the tang was not buffed. I believe the XX 055 clip blade did not have swedge, although the Tested XX 055 clip blade does have a swedge. I will take a closer look and share pictures this evening.

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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by herbva » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:10 pm

Thanks everyone. Ralph, I have a Tested 055 and a Case XX USA 055 and both have swedges on the clip. I just looked in Steve's book, and a Case XX 22055 pictured on the bottom of the page devoted to the 055 (page 198 in my copy), clearly has swedges on the clip. This knife has none, absolutely square on the spine all the way back past the pull.
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by olderdogs1 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:27 pm

It has a USA shield instead of the correct XX shield ::td::

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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by RalphAlsip » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:49 am

Just to finish what I started with regard to the blade... I see other comments about the rest of the knife (shield, etc.) that rightly cast doubt on the knife.

The blade seems to compare favorably to blades from a couple of XX 055's that I have. I also included a Tested blade for reference. It is fully possible that my knives are not authentic and that's why they compare favorably.

With regard to swedges, they seem more common on long pull blades than they do on regular pull blades.
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by herbva » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:14 am

Ralph, and everyone else, thank you very much for your help. As always, a thorough and very informative analysis! I doubt that any of your knives are fakes, and thanks to your help, I suspect that the clip of the OP knife that I received has been heavily ground or had a long, hot date with an abrasive belt sander, and was reshaped or reprofiled a bit due to a broken tip. Now that I've had time to more carefully examine this knife, I find that the clip has grind marks all over, including on the underside of the tang on the "kick". (Pictures attached.) I'm still puzzzled over that. If the seller sheds any light on this in response to my refund request, I will share that info. Again, your help is very much appreciated. Best regards and happy holidays! Herb
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by herbva » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:47 pm

FYI, the seller plead ignorance - i.e. he doesn't even bother to look at what he is selling. "I do not know the history of the knife. We buy collections, piece them out, and sell them. They come from all over." ::td::
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Re: Case 62055 Fake? Your Thoughts Please!

Post by Mumbleypeg » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:58 pm

herbva wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:47 pm
FYI, the seller plead ignorance - i.e. he doesn't even bother to look at what he is selling. "I do not know the history of the knife. We buy collections, piece them out, and sell them. They come from all over." ::td::
I see nothing unusual about it. Many sellers do exactly that - just buy and flip anything and everything. They know little or nothing about what they’re selling, or just do minimal research to create a listing. Been going on forever, way before the internet or eBay existed. It’s up to the buyer to decide. And then there are the ones that make up outlandish BS stories about the merchandise.

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