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Winchester 29103 large trapper history?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:53 pm
by HighPlains
I’m researching the Remington 1123 large trapper and it’s offspring. I have some questions about the Blue Grass/Queen Winchester 29103 large trapper.

Did Winchester originally produce a large trapper like this in the old days? Levine (1985, page 187) states: “Similar knives were also introduced by Utica and Union”. I haven’t yet seen proof that Winchester did. Interestingly, however, Levine does include a drawing of a Utica-made large trapper with the same buffalo head shield found on some of the BG/Queen Winchester 29103’s.

So, is the BG/Queen Winchester 29103 a reproduction of an original Winchester copycat of the Remington 1123? Levine says the R1123 was “one of the first” large trappers.

Or is it a direct reproduction of the Remington 1123 in the way that the GEC 23 is? And if this is the case, I wonder just how much Bill Howard had to do with this (probably a lot). Neither alternative would surprise me but I am curious.

Thanks in advance, I know there’s a lot of knowledge on this forum.

Pictured below:
-Winchester 29103 ‘93 & GEC 235208 Red Wine Jigged Bone, a beloved user.
-Utica large trapper drawing, Levine 1985, p187
-Blue Grass/Queen Winchester W18 290103 BH (not mine)

Re: Winchester 29103 large trapper history?

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:35 pm
by 1967redrider
I've seen old Uticas with Buffalo Head shields, not sure if they were the first to use it? ::shrug:: Usually these old knives in decent shape sell for good $$$.

Here's one previously listed;
viewtopic.php?t=52356

Re: Winchester 29103 large trapper history?

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:47 am
by WillyCamaro
Real head scratcher for sure ::hmm::
Thank you HighPlanes for the pics/info.