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Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:32 am
by Jeffinn
I’ve read a few different post on inlaying shields and they were very informative. I’m wondering how you transfer the outline of the shield to jigged bone. Are you tracing the outline with a marker right on the bone or is there a better way to get the pattern on to the bone?
Thanks.
Jeff
Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:02 pm
by Meridian_Mike
what I did with that last knife that had the shield with all the fillagree was to flip the liner over so I could see the 2 holes where the pins came thru. Then, I drilled the holes from the inside out and it gave me a location for the shield. That one wasn't too hard to locate.
Then, I used a scribe I made from a drill bit and scratched the border of the shield. I went over it several times and each time I did this, the outline got deeper. So then, I had a definite location to do my dremmel work.
Now, if the shield doesn't have a pin..... I think I used a spring clamp to hold it in place and then scribed one side. Then took the spring clamp off and moved it to the other side of the shield. Then I could scribe the side that was hidden the first time by the spring clamp jaw.
I think that was what I did....
I am open to easier..... better methods though.
Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:05 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Oh, one other thing.... I am an old draftsman by trade and I have some of the old lead holders hanging around. I use a lead holder to hold my sharpened drill bit shafts. Sure makes 'em easier to use.

Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:30 pm
by Jeffinn
Meridian_Mike wrote:what I did with that last knife that had the shield with all the fillagree was to flip the liner over so I could see the 2 holes where the pins came thru. Then, I drilled the holes from the inside out and it gave me a location for the shield. That one wasn't too hard to locate.
Then, I used a scribe I made from a drill bit and scratched the border of the shield. I went over it several times and each time I did this, the outline got deeper. So then, I had a definite location to do my dremmel work.
Now, if the shield doesn't have a pin..... I think I used a spring clamp to hold it in place and then scribed one side. Then took the spring clamp off and moved it to the other side of the shield. Then I could scribe the side that was hidden the first time by the spring clamp jaw.
I think that was what I did....
I am open to easier..... better methods though.
Thanks, I’ll give it a try today on a knife I’m working on. No pin on the shield so I’ll try the clamp and scribe method.
Jeff
Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:38 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Good luck Jeff. I was hoping some of the other guys that have more experience than me would chime in.
The shield I did with the clamp was an Old Timer oval shield... pretty easy in the over-all scheme of things.

Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:16 pm
by Doc B
Wish someone would chime in, with an easy way. I place the shield, then visually pick a safe place to drill...then place the shield again...and repeat ONE MILLION TIMES.

Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Dale hasn't seen all us fish flopping on dry ground yet.
LOL......
Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:36 pm
by orvet
Meridian_Mike wrote:Dale hasn't seen all us fish flopping on dry ground yet.
LOL......
Yeah Mike, I saw you, I just had other things going on and haven't had time to do a quick tutorial.
I am getting ready to do a shield on a Cattaraugus and it will be a good one to use for an example.
If you have one or more pins in the shield I would drill a hole and set a pin in there so the shield doesn't slide around. Then I would use a drop of Zap-A-Gap medium, in the green bottle, and put one drop under the shield to anchor it to your chosen spot.
After giving it a couple minutes to dry then use a scribe to scratch around the shield leaving a good outline in the bone. Be sure you get down to the bone and are not just scratching the glue. Incidentally, your drill bit scribe is an excellent idea!
After I getting good outline scribed in the bone, I remove the shield with a little prying action or if there is no pin in it with a gentle sideways strike to the shield.
After that it is a matter of removing enough material with Foredom, Dremel or any other method you have of removing the bone.
I will try to get a little tutorial put together in the next day or two.
I hope this helps, don't want to see you floundering on the dry land!
I am sure you guys will do fine!

Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:56 pm
by Doc B
See...I knew there had to be an easier way. Every time I tried to outline the shield...by any method...I always ended up moving it around.
Zap-a-gap GENIUS !!!!
Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:58 pm
by Meridian_Mike
orvet wrote:
I will try to get a little tutorial put together in the next day or two.
I hope this helps, don't want to see you floundering on the dry land!
I am sure you guys will do fine!

Yep, we would dry out real quick if we are left to flop too long.
Can't wait to see your tutorial Dale. I am interested to see which bits you use in your Foredom.

Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:43 pm
by carrmillus
Meridian_Mike wrote:Oh, one other thing.... I am an old draftsman by trade and I have some of the old lead holders hanging around. I use a lead holder to hold my sharpened drill bit shafts. Sure makes 'em easier to use.

........Welcome to the club, mike!!, I was a draftsman from 1952-2002(till the computer came along!!)......

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Re: Inlaying Shields
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:56 pm
by Meridian_Mike
carrmillus wrote:
........Welcome to the club, mike!!, I was a draftsman from 1952-2002(till the computer came along!!)......

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LOL.... I was a late starter... I started in 1973 and went thru the computer drafting times. I was officially a steel detailer for 40 years. My last work was done with SDS/2 - 3D modeling. Now, I am just an ole steel estimator. Working for somebody just so I can get
AFFORDABLE INSURANCE....
I couldn't AFFORD insurance as a self employed Steel Detailer. Thanks a lot... YOU KNOW WHO.....
