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Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby mytwobobos » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:54 pm

Just wondering if I got the number right, they’re pretty worn. Also does anyone know what year it may be and what those scales are called, they’re absolutely stunning. Wondering why they didn’t use them more often. Thanks!
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby FRJ » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:56 pm

That is a very nice little jack knife. The scales are celluloid.
Cattaraugus and other knife companies used celluloid on many of their knives. Similar and dissimilar.
I couldn't tell you what year it was made.
It's a keeper.

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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby mytwobobos » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:38 am

Thanks, FRJ ::tu::

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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby kootenay joe » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:03 am

The handles look to be "waterfall celluloid" which appears to shimmer if you rotate the knife a little.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby mytwobobos » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:09 pm

Yes, Joe, that's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to call it that until I was sure. They seemed to look like the rings inside a tree when they've been cut. To me, its one of the nicest looking celluloid's I have seen, along with the Christmas tree celluloid. This one here is nicely done and has kept well, I can hardly distinguish the transition from scale to bolster when I run my finger over it. Thanks for the feedback!.. BTW, does anyone know how Cattaraugus numbers their knives? Like with Case, the first number is the scale/handle material, the second is the number of blades, etc. I figure that may help with finding out more about it.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby FRJ » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:27 pm

Here is an old Northfield with similar covers.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby Tony_Wood » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:31 pm

Love those colors, fellas.

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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby peanut740 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:58 pm

The OP knive looks like green swirl celluloid, not waterfall.Waterfall is off white/ cream color.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby edge213 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:43 am

mytwobobos wrote:Just wondering if I got the number right, they’re pretty worn. Also does anyone know what year it may be and what those scales are called, they’re absolutely stunning. Wondering why they didn’t use them more often. Thanks!

Cattaraugus numbering system:
1st number= number of blades
2nd number= number and placement of bolsters
3rd and 4th numbers = pattern number
5th number = handle material
So, as far as your number. 22784.
2 is correct for number of blades
2 is correct for bolsters
4 is ccorrect for celluloid handles
78 is listed as pen/butterbean

This information is from "Cattaraugus Cutlery Co." By Roy Ritchie and Ron Stewart.
I hope I didn't confuse.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby mytwobobos » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:58 am

Thanks all for your comments, and the Cattaraugus numbering system chart is a great help, edge 213. I appreciate the help. ::tu::

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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby kootenay joe » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:55 pm

I thought some Waterfall has a greenish & bronze tinge to it ? This is something i read. I don't collect celluloid handled knives so have little experience with Waterfall celluloid.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby btrwtr » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:56 pm

Waterfall will be off white, cream or light yellow in color and translucent. As Roger said handles on the op are not waterfall. Waterfall handles will show a water like flow or movement as the knife is rotated. The celluloid green shell pearl type handles of the OP knife will not show this movement.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby LongBlade » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:19 pm

As a visual for waterfall celluloid here is a photo - if you click on it and enlarge you can see very fine lines within the celluloid which as Wayne notes reflects light when you turn it in hand giving the illusion of movement ...

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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby Jacknifeben » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:37 pm

This is one of my Cattaraugus with “waterfall celluloid” handles.
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Re: Cattaraugus 22784?

Postby LongBlade » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:04 pm

Jacknifeben - I believe the celluloid you are showing was called faux wood grain... waterfall is more translucent.. here is another knife (Empire made Shapleigh cattle knife) with same wood grain pattern as your celluloid ..

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