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Empire Knife Company - old or new

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:52 pm
by merlechris
http://cgi.ebay.com/EMPIRE-W-WINSTED-CT ... dZViewItem


This item on eBay looks legit to me (item # 190175555548), but I would like to hear peoples' opinion on the seller's claim that the knife was constructed from old stock. It certainly isn't the German reproduction knife.

I remember seeing an exact duplicate of this knife on eBay last year, but that knife certainly looked old and worn. Thanks.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:03 am
by muskrat man
it has been cleaned, you can tell by the blade finish and the lack of a choil. maybe an old knife, but it's been cleaned up either way.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:30 am
by gto4spd
it's what the seller says. made from parts. old parts ... new parts... well it's a crap shoot. i wouldn't do it. just my opinion.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:28 am
by stockman
New or at least recent I have seen this same knife with other tang stamps. These are also in different patterns but you can tell they are made the same place. I once saw a roll of these stamped NYK Co. that was said to be a salesman sample roll all phony. Bone on them is all alike. Good looking knives but not the real deal.

Stockman

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:53 am
by knife7knut
I have a knife in my collection with that exact front bolster stamped,"Edward K.Tryon Company" and I know it is old.Probably exactly what the seller claims:assembled from old parts.Sort of like a Shelby Continuation Cobra but worth less.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:23 am
by msteele6
I asked the seller about a knife marked Wilbert that was essentially identical to this one and he told me that the parts came out of the old Ulster factory.

I personally have seen quite a few, virtually identical to this one, with many different marks, including one I own marked Utica. Pretty high quality but not, in my opinion, authentic.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:53 am
by stockman
The knife is at $70.00 and five days left very cheap for a real Empire, very high for who knows what! I have also seen the Wilberts, and like I posted earlier others. These knives were made to decieve, that is why they are in these very collectable names.

Stockman