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PA Knives please take a look....
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:43 pm
by knifeaholic
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=008
I have never seen a Union marked knife stamped like this one - just thought that you might be interested. The knife itself looks like a 1940's to 50's Camillus or Ulster, so it coud have been a contract knife. Could be a fake of course, but seems unlikely that someone would go to the trouble of faking a non existent marking.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:52 pm
by knife7knut
Interesting piece knifeaholic. I'm wondering(and this is pure speculation)if that stamping was tried when KA-BAR changed their stamping to the italicized KaBar? Wasn't that in the late 40's early 50's? Hope somebody can dope it out.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:04 pm
by jonet143
went through all my reference books. no luck on just "union" over olean,n.y.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:05 am
by lt632ret
I am sure David will give a more informed response however my opinion is that it is a transitional stamp lesser used and a bit more rare than the usual. The style reminds me of that of the Queen City scroll of 28-45 and is indicitive of that time frame . Here is a pic of a QC ( I am posting in only as a reference point to a time fame of the style of stamp and not as a relation of the knife in question ).
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:30 pm
by PA Knives
HI!
Although I am well versed in older Union knives from Tidioute, the years in Olean, NY are not as clear to me. I have NEVER seen this script before on a Union knife. I will look at the old UNION Catalog (1912-1924) in the back of my book to see if this pattern matches and let you know, or if someone is handy a copy that is reading this maybe they could chime in, as I am not at home at this time. That would clear up the question of "is it a real Union Knife or not"
I do question the stamp, but I am not quick to discount it at this point. LT may be very right in his comment about it being a rare stamp.
I have learned that in knives, many things are possible. For example: American Hone Co. Olean NY. Same company as UNION. I am still looking a razor with this stamp. I saw one at the KaBar visitors center. Never seen another. I wonder if knives were stamped this way too?
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