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Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:43 am
by zoogirl
Since Richards pocketknives seem to be jumping out at me from all sides, I got curious. If the Robin Hood knife I got a couple of weeks ago was a Richards, what were the odds that my Queen E coronation knife was?
Yep, pretty good, as it turns out!
Now the sad part. This is the knife I’ve owned the longest. I bought it at a swap meet for a dollar, in 1976. It’s been mostly living in a hundred year old laquéred box ever since. Sometime in the last couple of years, it got gas. Outgassed like a little bomb, corroded my grandmother’s button hook and basically ate itself. This is what’s left.
I’m going to keep it, but obviously by itself. Is there anything to be done with it? I’ve it it with rust remover a little oily thinner and a pencil. This is actually much better than it was. The knife is 3 1/4 ‘’ fully open.
Gonna go weep now.
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:53 am
by kootenay joe
Your knife is a good example of why i stopped buying celluloid handled knives some years ago. Celluloid handles in original condition can be bright and attractive but their beauty is limited by time. Other handle materials will not cause future disappointment and destruction.
kj
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:10 pm
by SteelMyHeart85420
Here's a Richard's R.C.M.P. knife that's survived, so far
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:58 pm
by deo-pa
Other handle materials will not cause future disappointment and destruction.
That may be true but I would not personally forgo the opportunity to own some absolutely beautiful celluloid handled knives because of the potential for deterioration. And potential is the correct word because there are plenty of 100 year old celluloid knives that remain stable and retain their vibrant colors. I have some that give me as much pleasure of ownership as the gnarly-est stag or the greenest Case bone. I'll likely be long gone when they finally give up the ghost.
Dennis
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:22 pm
by tongueriver
deo-pa wrote:Other handle materials will not cause future disappointment and destruction.
That may be true but I would not personally forgo the opportunity to own some absolutely beautiful celluloid handled knives because of the potential for deterioration. And potential is the correct word because there are plenty of 100 year old celluloid knives that remain stable and retain their vibrant colors. I have some that give me as much pleasure of ownership as the gnarly-est stag or the greenest Case bone. I'll likely be long gone when they finally give up the ghost.
Dennis
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Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:31 pm
by edge213
tongueriver wrote:deo-pa wrote:Other handle materials will not cause future disappointment and destruction.
That may be true but I would not personally forgo the opportunity to own some absolutely beautiful celluloid handled knives because of the potential for deterioration. And potential is the correct word because there are plenty of 100 year old celluloid knives that remain stable and retain their vibrant colors. I have some that give me as much pleasure of ownership as the gnarly-est stag or the greenest Case bone. I'll likely be long gone when they finally give up the ghost.
Dennis
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Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:10 pm
by knife7knut
That is the first shell handled celluloid knife I have seen that out-gassed! I've re-handled several cel knives that have started to deteriorate and although the collector value is gone they are still good users. What really puzzles me is why a cel handled knife will out-gas and completely destroy one handle and leave the other side untouched! Here is one example of an Aerial coke bottle that has destroyed itself on one side only. I replaced that handle and left the other in place and it shows no signs whatsoever of out-gassing.
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:47 pm
by KleenCut61
zoogirl wrote:Since Richards pocketknives seem to be jumping out at me from all sides, I got curious. If the Robin Hood knife I got a couple of weeks ago was a Richards, what were the odds that my Queen E coronation knife was?
Yep, pretty good, as it turns out!
Now the sad part. This is the knife I’ve owned the longest. I bought it at a swap meet for a dollar, in 1976. It’s been mostly living in a hundred year old laquéred box ever since. Sometime in the last couple of years, it got gas. Outgassed like a little bomb, corroded my grandmother’s button hook and basically ate itself. This is what’s left.
I’m going to keep it, but obviously by itself. Is there anything to be done with it? I’ve it it with rust remover a little oily thinner and a pencil. This is actually much better than it was. The knife is 3 1/4 ‘’ fully open.
Gonna go weep now. 0A41C6AB-0FD0-42FB-9AF4-3EB31417AD5A.png3672BD0C-04A7-4C89-8805-A50652EEA00B.jpeg5C1FCA3C-752D-4396-9964-12E6A9C8260F.png4685B41C-0318-4D45-9A28-3F7057755E81.jpeg
If it Means that much to you Zoogirl Your Knife Could be encapsulated in some acrylic Resin and used as a Paper wieght or something to that effect .. Just saying ...K.C.
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:52 am
by zoogirl
[/quote] If it Means that much to you Zoogirl Your Knife Could be encapsulated in some acrylic Resin and used as a Paper wieght or something to that effect .. Just saying ...K.C.[/quote]
It kind of does. That was probably the first swap meet I went to and I was crazy about the guy I went with, like only a sixteen year old can be. All I got left is the knife, some good memories and a 45rpm of Misty Blue from the breakup!
Funny thing. He also gave me a Chevrolet knife, which should be in the box but walked away fairly recently.
Anyway, yeah something airtight did cross my mind.
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:58 am
by zoogirl
knife7knut wrote:What really puzzles me is why a cel handled knife will out-gas and completely destroy one handle and leave the other side untouched! Here is one example of an Aerial coke bottle that has destroyed itself on one side only. I replaced that handle and left the other in place and it shows no signs whatsoever of out-gassing.
Yes. If you look at my little knife you’ll see the back...sorry,
pileside is all good.
Workin’ on my terminology!
Re: Gassy little heartbreaker
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:11 am
by FRJ
edge213 wrote:tongueriver wrote:deo-pa wrote:
That may be true but I would not personally forgo the opportunity to own some absolutely beautiful celluloid handled knives because of the potential for deterioration. And potential is the correct word because there are plenty of 100 year old celluloid knives that remain stable and retain their vibrant colors. I have some that give me as much pleasure of ownership as the gnarly-est stag or the greenest Case bone. I'll likely be long gone when they finally give up the ghost.
Dennis
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