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Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:11 pm
by chorizotaco
Good afternoon
Can I get a date range on this please? I know the Ka-bar chart is somewhat of a guide but flawed. This turned out to be a great blade when I got it in. Great snap, amazing. Thanks.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:27 pm
by Gunsil
Hi Dan, with the KA-BAR over Olean NY and nickel bolsters and guard your knife must have been made between about 1946-1948 or 49 when the use of the KA-BAR over USA mark began. If it had steel bolsters it would have been circa 1943-1945.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:00 pm
by SteelMyHeart85420
What is your info source, Gunsil? This Ka-bar tang stamp chart I found (I thought on AAPK) says Ka-bar over U.S.A. is 1930-1940. Couldn't find Ka-bar over Olean at all, so it's obviously incomplete...
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:08 pm
by SteelMyHeart85420
Oh, yeah...I like 'em, too
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:22 am
by zzyzzogeton
SteelMyHeart85420 wrote:What is your info source, Gunsil? This Ka-bar tang stamp chart I found (I thought on AAPK) says Ka-bar over U.S.A. is 1930-1940. Couldn't find Ka-bar over Olean at all, so it's obviously incomplete...
The issue with these tang/ricassso stamp charts is that almost none of them are 100% accurate. I say almost because there MAY be one or two out there with no errors, but I doubt it.
The errors stem from multiple causes -
- some times, it's as simple as a company reused a stamp for some unknown, but logical (to the company) reason.
--- an example of this is Western's WESTCUT line
- some entries on a specific chart are assigned with incomplete knowledge, whether from misinformation or inadequate knowledge - Western has a bunch of these.....
----- a specified time frame may be correct for FOLDING knives but not FIXED blades, and vice versa.
----- a specific stamp and time may be correct for SOME models, but different stamps may be used on other models at the same time
- sometimes a specific stamp usage date is based on PURCHASE date, but the knife was actually made during an earlier (sometimes years) period.
- someone MAY have made a date range based on faulty memories, and it stuck, and then someone uses this faulty "common knowledge" as the basis for a date assignment.
And probably some other reasons I can't think of right now.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:00 pm
by chorizotaco
Thanks everyone, I appreciate it.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:21 pm
by chorizotaco
Gunsil wrote:Hi Dan, with the KA-BAR over Olean NY and nickel bolsters and guard your knife must have been made between about 1946-1948 or 49 when the use of the KA-BAR over USA mark began. If it had steel bolsters it would have been circa 1943-1945.
Gunsil it appears to have the nickel bolsters, thanks.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:46 pm
by FRJ
Ilikemtoo!
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:08 pm
by wazu013
I like them too.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:21 pm
by FRJ
That's a beauty, there, wazu013.

Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:41 pm
by Gunsil
SteelMyHeart85420 wrote:What is your info source, Gunsil? This Ka-bar tang stamp chart I found (I thought on AAPK) says Ka-bar over U.S.A. is 1930-1940. Couldn't find Ka-bar over Olean at all, so it's obviously incomplete...
That chart was put out by the KCC (KA-BAR Collectors Club) in the late 1970s and has MANY errors in it. The folks in Olean who put that chart out had no real basis, just guessing and some info from an old timer or two whose memory was incorrect. I have the largest selection of original KA-BAR catalogs, price lists, and brochures and this is where I get my irrefutable info. I have given many to the present day KA-BAR people since they have very little original old company paper. As ZZZZY says there are mistakes in many tang stamp charts. For instance it is a fact that the Case tested XX stamp on pocket knives did not end in 1940, it ended after the war, but few folks wish to accept this info since it is "written".
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:03 pm
by Gunsil
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:14 pm
by Pile Driver
Give me those Gene!
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:58 pm
by Gunsil
I'll send them right out Dan!! LOL!!
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:59 pm
by Pile Driver
Gunsil wrote:I'll send them right out Dan!! LOL!!
Both are awesome but the top one is special in my eyes, I dont love hobos but love the frame and the cut swedge and crescent match strike pull blades they have. That knife so so cool.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:21 pm
by Mumbleypeg
You mean, sorta like this?
Ken
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:47 pm
by FRJ
Ken, that is a beautiful museum piece.
Re: Ka-bar swinguard
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:32 am
by Mumbleypeg
Thanks Joe. I'm proud to be its caretaker for a while.
Ken