???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

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???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

Postby Lorinda » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:37 am

As my husband and I have been going through my late father-in-law's knife collection, we have came across one that has us confused. It is an 4" Old Timer handle with shield but it has 885UH blades. I have searched the internet and this site for hours and have not found anything like this.
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Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:53 am

Possibly what's called an "end of days" knife. Just prior to Schrade declaring bankruptcy the employees assembled knives from available inventory parts, without regard to "correct" pattern. If parts could be put together into a functional knife they were used.

There may be another explanation I'm unaware of. Some of the Schrade experts will know.

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Re: ???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

Postby Lorinda » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:12 am

Thank you for your quick response.
Would that make it more or less valuable? We have been trying to sell most of the collection but are keeping a few.

Should we attempt to clean the ones in similar condition or leave them all as is?

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Re: ???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:34 am

Don't clean them any more than necessary to remove loose dirt and active rust. Active (red) rust can usually be safely removed by rubbing with a pencil lead (graphite). A soft cotton cloth, an old toothbrush and some lukewarm water with a little dish soap should do the rest of the job. Be sure to rinse and dry them thoroughly (some compressed air if you have access to any, to blow out any excess water). After drying thoroughly, oil the blade pivots sparingly with a lightweight oil, and wipe down all the metal (blades and backsprings inside and out) with the lightweight oil. If you're interested in more about cleaning here's a link to more info viewtopic.php?f=37&t=54157

I'll leave comment about value to the Schrade experts.

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Re: ???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

Postby Lorinda » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:51 am

Thank you again for the information and advice. I really do appreciate it. I have been doing a lot of research on American made knives and am really getting interested in pocket knives.

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Re: ???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:11 am

Lorinda wrote:Thank you again for the information and advice. I really do appreciate it. I have been doing a lot of research on American made knives and am really getting interested in pocket knives.

You've found the right place for researching and talking knives. We'd like to see pictures of more of your father's collection.

If you enjoy history you'll enjoy pocket knives. Don't hesitate to ask questions.

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Re: ???Old Timer handle and shield with 885UH blades???

Postby orvet » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:23 am

The knife shown here in the original post may have indeed been end of days knife, or it may have been just a case of an Uncle Henry blade mixed in with some 8OT blades.
Notice that the tang stamp on the clip blade says SCHRADE+ on the top line of the tang stamp. This signifies that the knife was made with stainless steel blades. However if you look at the other two blades they are obviously discolored and have developed considerable patina. This tells me those are carbon steel blades. In general the blades of a knife are all made with the same type of steel. What you have is a 8OT with an 885UH blade.
How did that blade ended up in an Old Timer? It may have been an 885UH blade dropped on the floor next to a machine where they were assembling 8OTs. Someone may have picked it up without looking assuming it belonged in an 8OT and tossed it in the blades being assembled in the 8OT's. Or it could have been they run a batch of 885's and one blade got hung up somewhere in the machinery and when the 8OT blades were dumped in the machinery and not the 885 blade loose, and it was installed in an Old Timer.

The wrong blade in that knife doesn't necessarily make invaluable, to me one would make that knife valuable is the fact that it belonged to someone I loved. ::nod::
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