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Cattaraugus #11057

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:36 pm
by Cherokee County
Hello. I'm new to this group. I purchased in a box of junk a Cattaraugus single blade model #11057 Knife. It is obviously an old used knife but has it's own character. Can anyone identify the age, general value of the knife? Thanks.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:31 pm
by PA Knives
HI! and welcome,

Although I am not a CAT expert by any means, I do know that the plant closed in the early 60's and they started before the turn of the century. So you fall in there somewhere. A photo of the knife and the tang stamp would help those that are knowledgable about them give you a better idea of value. But remember, they are only worth what someone is willing to pay and how much you cherish the item. You can use a scanner if you have one. Gives a clean background and then another ZOOMED in the tang stamp. Can't wait to see it. ::tu::

Cattaraugus #11057

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:34 pm
by Cherokee County
Thanks for both the reply and the welcome. I am attaching a scanned image of both sides of the Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Knife. The blade has been obviously shaprened many times. The model number is clear at 11057 on the reverse side. The primary blade can be read listing it as a Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Little Valley and what is either USC or USA. It appears to be a "c" more than an "a" which made me think it was possibly a military knife? I believe it is older than World War II but mine is only a hunch. Anyone who can help me in dating this knife will be appreciated. Thanks for any and all help.

P.S. - I don't have any old Pennsylvania knives in my collection.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:38 pm
by PA Knives
Great job of posting pictures ::tu:: What you have is what is known as a Hawkbill. It would have had a much larger blade in orginal condition that curved over like the name indicates. The handles are wood and it appears to be steel bolsters. I assume that the liners are the same material. Unfortunately this isn't a real hot collectable. These were rugged knives meant for tough work. :x Not pretty or fancy, just tough. Cost were low, so there for didn't gain alot of notice with collectors. I had one stamped W R CASE and Sons that sold for $17 in similar condition. I would say yours would be somewhere in that area. A great user though. Hope this helps and I appreciate you watching out for those PA knives for me. :wink:

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:38 pm
by El Lobo
Adding about $.02 worth of info here.....

Pattern 11057:
1= 1 blade
1= 1 bolster
05= the pattern...in this instance, a hawkbill pruning knife.
7= Cocobolo wood scales/handle

It may prove very difficult to pin down an exact date, as they didn't use a dating system like Case, or others. As pa mentioned, materials might ballpark it a bit...it has been rumored that some knives were "cobbled" together out of old parts in the '70s...but I'll go "out on a limb" ( :roll: ) and guess it's older than 1963...since that's the year they went out of business. :lol:

Bill

CATTARAUGUS HAWKBILL

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:56 am
by Mossdancer
THIS MAY NOT EVEN BE WORTH 2 CENTS, CHECK THE OTHER CONTENTS OF THE BOX WERE THERE ANY TOOLS, IF SO SOMETIMES TOOLS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
MOSSDANCER