I don't know but back when the Hattori's were reasonable, I had an itch for one but never scratched it. I thought they were a cheap, second rate knife. Sure wish I had picked up one of those sub-hilt models. Can't afford 'em now.
Forged on the anvil of discipline.
The Few. The Proud.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012