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Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:42 pm
by treefarmer
This knife got my attention, the tang stamp is simply, Q1986. I've not had the opportunity to research how many different makers made these knives.
Am I barking up the right tree thinking this is a Queen?
Treefarmer
tang stamp  Q1986
tang stamp Q1986
a regular military style utility knife with a Q on the tang
a regular military style utility knife with a Q on the tang

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:01 pm
by bdev
I believe it is. All of the Queen military knives like that one, that I've seen, were made in 1986.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:31 pm
by treefarmer
That's good to hear. ::tu:: Thank you, Bruno. ::handshake::
It would be nice to know how many different makers made these knives. Seems like all I remember seeing were Camillus. ::hmm::
Treefarmer

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:49 pm
by cody6268
At that time, Queen and Ontario did a lot of stuff for military contracts (TL-29 and "Demo"), as well as Queen prodcing the Ontario Old Hickory folders.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:50 pm
by bdev
treefarmer wrote:That's good to hear. ::tu:: Thank you, Bruno. ::handshake::
It would be nice to know how many different makers made these knives. Seems like all I remember seeing were Camillus. ::hmm::
Treefarmer
Camillus, Ulster, Imperial, Queen, Schrade, and maybe a few more.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:55 pm
by Gunsil
There's a thread about these someplace around here with all the makers listed but you have to read the whole thread since some were omitted by the original author and added later in the thread if I remember correctly. Most were by Camillus, but the first ones with carbon steel blades, brass liners and monel handles were made in 1945 by Kingston. None of these except the early ones are much good, I've worn them out in a couple years of carrying/using them. SAKs are better made in my opinion.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:12 pm
by treefarmer
Thanks for the info, gentlemen! ::handshake::
Treefarmer

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:23 pm
by Sasquach
Has anyone heard anything about Queen re-opening? I've been watching for any indication that they will start production again but have seen nothing. Is there still a possibility that they will "restructure" and make a come-back?

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:43 pm
by Railsplitter
Sasquach wrote:Has anyone heard anything about Queen re-opening? I've been watching for any indication that they will start production again but have seen nothing. Is there still a possibility that they will "restructure" and make a come-back?
I haven't heard a thing about Queen re-opening. I've seen Ryan Daniels at a couple of knife shows since Queen closed. I believe Ryan handled all the Marketing affairs at Queen but he seems to be doing his own thing now.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:20 pm
by Sasquach
Railsplitter wrote:
Sasquach wrote:Has anyone heard anything about Queen re-opening? I've been watching for any indication that they will start production again but have seen nothing. Is there still a possibility that they will "restructure" and make a come-back?
I haven't heard a thing about Queen re-opening. I've seen Ryan Daniels at a couple of knife shows since Queen closed. I believe Ryan handled all the Marketing affairs at Queen but he seems to be doing his own thing now.
Thanks for the response Rick. Does Ryan Daniels have a web site where he can be contacted? I would love to see Queen resurface and continue their legacy but I beginning to think the worst.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:34 pm
by Railsplitter
Sasquach wrote:
Railsplitter wrote:
Sasquach wrote:Has anyone heard anything about Queen re-opening? I've been watching for any indication that they will start production again but have seen nothing. Is there still a possibility that they will "restructure" and make a come-back?
I haven't heard a thing about Queen re-opening. I've seen Ryan Daniels at a couple of knife shows since Queen closed. I believe Ryan handled all the Marketing affairs at Queen but he seems to be doing his own thing now.
Thanks for the response Rick. Does Ryan Daniels have a web site where he can be contacted? I would love to see Queen resurface and continue their legacy but I beginning to think the worst.
Charlie, if so I'm not aware of it. Ryan and Cortney have an Ebay store but I'm afraid I don't know the name of it. I think it's been mentioned before somewhere on this forum but I wouldn't know how to find it. You might be able to contact Ryan through Ebay message if you could find out the name of his store.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:06 pm
by Sasquach
Railsplitter wrote:
Sasquach wrote:
Railsplitter wrote:
I haven't heard a thing about Queen re-opening. I've seen Ryan Daniels at a couple of knife shows since Queen closed. I believe Ryan handled all the Marketing affairs at Queen but he seems to be doing his own thing now.
Thanks for the response Rick. Does Ryan Daniels have a web site where he can be contacted? I would love to see Queen resurface and continue their legacy but I beginning to think the worst.
Charlie, if so I'm not aware of it. Ryan and Cortney have an Ebay store but I'm afraid I don't know the name of it. I think it's been mentioned before somewhere on this forum but I wouldn't know how to find it. You might be able to contact Ryan through Ebay message if you could find out the name of his store.
I just did some searching after I posted my response to you. I found an email address for Ken Daniels of Queen Cutlery. Surprisingly I received an almost immediate reply. Here is what he wrote:

"Sir,
Queen Cutlery is in bankruptcy, does not look like there is going to be anyone out there, that is going to try and save it like I tried."
Ken Daniels

Needless to say, it's not what I wanted to hear. I guess there is still a faint glimmer of hope that someone will make the attempt.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:10 pm
by Railsplitter
Wow, that was fast!

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:32 pm
by Sasquach
Railsplitter wrote:Wow, that was fast!
A fellow collector on another forum suggested that GEC needs to buy the trademark. I don't know if GEC is even interested but that scenario could be a Phoenix rising from the ashes for the Queen lovers out here.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:46 pm
by Sasquach
I believe these Col. Coon canoes were made by Queen. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:24 pm
by bdev
I believe you're right Charlie. Made by Queen.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:31 pm
by Sasquach
bdev wrote:I believe you're right Charlie. Made by Queen.
Bruno, I checked with SMKW, where I purchased the Col. Coon canoes a few years back, and the lady I spoke to confirmed that they were made by Queen. She told me that the Colonel Coon knives currently offered in their catalog are made in the USA but she wasn't sure who makes them. Any ideas? Bear & Son maybe?

Below is a Robeson canoe and there is no doubt that it was made by Queen....it has the Queen tang stamp on the back side of the master blade.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:52 pm
by bdev
Could be Bear & Son or even Utica. I'm sure someone here on the forum knows. Why don't you post a question on the Col Coon forum?

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:00 pm
by cody6268
bdev wrote:Could be Bear & Son or even Utica. I'm sure someone here on the forum knows. Why don't you post a question on the Col Coon forum?
If I recall, I posted something similar here after seeing some on eBay and I think it was believed to be Bear.

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:41 pm
by Sasquach
cody6268 wrote:
bdev wrote:Could be Bear & Son or even Utica. I'm sure someone here on the forum knows. Why don't you post a question on the Col Coon forum?
If I recall, I posted something similar here after seeing some on eBay and I think it was believed to be Bear.
I've had some varied levels of quality with Bear MGC/Bear & Son products. There is no doubt that they are capable of making some fine knives yet I have some that should never have gotten past the QC department. I believe the Keen Kutter canoes that I have were made by Bear and they are not very well made. I also have a Moore Maker liner lock that was made by Bear that is as fine a knife as you'd ever want. Go figure....

Re: Is this a Queen?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:05 am
by Sasquach
Can anyone tell me with reasonable certainty if these knives were made by Queen for Ka-Bar? I contacted Ka-Bar and the best they could tell me was that it might be Blue Grass Cutlery, Camillus, or Queen. Any info would be greatly appreciated.