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Commander

Postby kootenay joe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:12 am

Here is a 3 3/8" 2 blade swell end jack that is marked "Commander" on the master tang. I think the handles are a man made substance, possibly celluloid ?
Who made Commander knives and were they a premium knife or an entry level line ? This is the only knife with this marking i have seen.
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Re: Commander

Postby Mumbleypeg » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:53 am

Goins' says "COMMANDER c 1891-1928 A trademark used by M. Klaas"

He also shows a stamping "COMMANDER LITTLE VALLEY, N.Y. c 1891-1928 A trademark used by M. Klaas. The knife seen was probably made by Cattaraugus Cutlery for Klaas"

If you look up "M. Klaas" it says "Max Klaas was an importer, in New York City."

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Re: Commander

Postby kootenay joe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:59 pm

Thanks Ken. This looks like a USA knife, not German and i doubt it was imported. The Cattaraugus mention might apply to this knife. Did Catt. make this pattern ? However the knife does not have "LITTLE VALLEY, N.Y.".
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Re: Commander

Postby Berryb » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:27 pm

I think Max Klass was one of the Kissing Crane Klass's so It could be made by Kissing Crane.
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Re: Commander

Postby msteele6 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:48 pm

It looks like either an Imperial or a Colonial. I have a single example with jigged black handles and I put it to bed with my Colonials. The shield and oddly clipped off master spear indicates either Imperial or Colonial to me. Both Colonial and Imperial made quality knives in the '20's and '30's.

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Re: Commander

Postby kootenay joe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:09 pm

thank you ms. "Commander" would have been a contract knife not a house brand, correct. There seem to be very few around.
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Re: Commander

Postby knifeaholic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:19 pm

msteele6 wrote:It looks like either an Imperial or a Colonial. I have a single example with jigged black handles and I put it to bed with my Colonials. The shield and oddly clipped off master spear indicates either Imperial or Colonial to me. Both Colonial and Imperial made quality knives in the '20's and '30's.

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I agree...Imperial. 1920's era. I have seen a number of COMMANDER stamped knives over the years and each one appeared based on tooling and handle material to have been made by Imperial when they made their quality solid-bolster knives. Many have had jigged black composition handles.

I know that Goins says Little Valley. May be true, but I have never seen one that was actually stamped Little Valley.
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Re: Commander

Postby kootenay joe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:28 pm

O.K., now we know the maker. But who were they made for ? and where were they sold ? or were they corporate gifts to be given to clients ?
Likely to have been a short lived venture because it is rare to see a "Commander" knife.
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Re: Commander

Postby Miller Bro's » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:34 pm

I think I use to own that very knife ::nod::
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Re: Commander

Postby kootenay joe » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:29 am

I bought this from "Paul" a collector in Florida and formerly was active in AAPK. Perhaps Paul got the knife from you ?
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