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IVORY HANDLE.STERLING SILVER BLADE

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:29 am
by richard
nice ivory handled, hallmarked birmingham england 1866,maker joseph carnell. silver blade. fruit knife.?

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:40 am
by BWT
Good looking ole knife ::tu:: ::tu::

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:51 am
by kootenay joe
Beautiful Tea knife, used when serving mid afternoon "Tea" (either at 1500 hrs or 1600 hrs) which often included fresh baked bread with butter and jam or marmalade and so a smaller ( ~ 2/3rds size) butter knife is needed.
Handles are ivory carved in a "Tulip" pattern and blade is sterling silver so it will not rust.
I have a Jos. Rodgers set of 6 Tea knives with Tulip pattern ivory handles that date to early 1900's (pre WW I), and look very much like your knife. I am not at home so cannot take a picture to post.
kj

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:19 am
by TripleF
Beauty!!

Thanks for the insights Roland!! ::tu::

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:25 pm
by doglegg
That is fancy.

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:49 pm
by kootenay joe
Here is my set of J.R. Tea knives. There is no hallmark on the blades so they are steel not silver as in OP knife. The sticker on back of knife case shows these were purchased at "Croisdale Cutlers" in Leeds. I don't know if the hand written letters show date or price. Maybe someone can interpret what the writing says ?
kj

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:11 pm
by richard
nice knives . the blades have his majesty ER.on them so was made 1901-1910 in king edward V11 reign.
i would say, the first numbers are stock numbers. then the date the shop got them in stock 7/12/ 1901. the 26/6 is the price. 26 shillings and six pence.and last. the mark of probably the shop manager.

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:23 pm
by kootenay joe
Richard, thank you ! You know the British marking system as well as old British hand written characters which are a little different from modern American hand printing.
I assume 26 Schillings was quite an expense in 1901.
kj

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:10 am
by richard
i lived in england for 40 years . now in australia.
rodgers knives are good to date ,because they stamped the blades, with the reining monarch.
in 1901 army pay was 1 shilling aday. the shop sales person who sold those knive's. would have earned about 10 shillings per week.
as those knives are the year of coronation. of edward V11. they could be limited edition sets. made for the coronation. they did that sort of thing in england. still do for a new monarch.everything from cheap trinkets to expensive collectable's.
richard.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:19 am
by richard
i found this picture of croisdale cutlers leeds dated 1935 would not have changed much. since 1901.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:27 am
by richard
this is a link to the history of joseph rodgers cutlers .
you might find interesting.
https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/foru ... ment-10803

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:01 am
by kootenay joe
Richard, again, thank you for this information, interesting & useful with other knives as well. By interpreting the sticker on the case, i now know much more about these knives and their significance.
Here i was adding information to your post but you know much more about British cutlery than i do.
kj

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:57 am
by richard
i would have loved to visit no.6 norfolk street . in the 1800's
did you see the pic's ,in the link ,of the entrance and the show rooms.
and the stock rooms. full of ivory

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:19 am
by kootenay joe
Yes, it was an era of extravagant opulence with enough wealth to buy the exquisite creations.
kj

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:25 am
by Quick Steel
Ah for the days of Empire, the Raj, and Rodgers Cutlery. :)