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What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:38 pm
by billyg
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83MERWFRn6Gzsbr8

Can anybody share information on this item ?
something heavy lock a rock, and attached stick. wrapped tightly in leather with a horse tail on the top.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:00 pm
by Railsplitter
I don't know but I'll take a guess. Witch Doctor's wand?

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:02 pm
by gsmith7158
Looks like a head knocker that the Pawnee Indians once used.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:03 pm
by tongueriver
Early tool for dusting off your knife displays.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:22 pm
by XX Case XX
Railsplitter wrote: Witch Doctor's wand?
::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

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Mike

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:23 pm
by Railsplitter
XX Case XX wrote:
Railsplitter wrote: Witch Doctor's wand?
::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

__________
Mike
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:23 pm
by gsmith7158
Here is a similar one. Pawnee war club.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:24 pm
by XX Case XX
I've never seen anything like it. Maybe something ceremonial? I hope someone has an answer because now I want to know.

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Mike

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:30 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Kinda hard to tell without knowing what it's made from, but if it's carved wood, it could be a drum mallet/stick.


WB

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:31 pm
by Quick Steel
I've seen, on film, something similar being used to keep flys away in Africa.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:33 pm
by gsmith7158
If you have ever watched the movie Dances with Wolves, there is a scene where the pawnee use these in a raid on the Lacota Sioux tribe.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:14 pm
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Here's another one, but no indication if it is authentic.
http://www.icollector.com/Horsehair-Nat ... _i28939432

Edit: here's a short article with a few pictures: https://centerofthewest.org/2017/07/31/ ... -war-club/

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:19 pm
by billyg
Wow, nice find TwoFlowersLuggage...

Anyone need it for their collection, the thing creeps me out a little.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:26 pm
by eveled
I don't blame you, it looks like a scalp on a stick.

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:35 pm
by jerryd6818
I'm thinking all wood with horse hair held on by some rawhide with beadwork. Where's Antiques Roadshow when you need them?
This picture is enhanced some. Take a look.
For posterity, this is the picture in the OP's link.

Edit: I'm siding with Rob. Drum stick. Doesn't look sturdy enough to be a war club and there's no stone on the end (not that there has to be). ::shrug::

Re: What is this...

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:00 am
by Mossdancer
What?:
Not saying it is one of these only a chance. Years ago I was told that Indian warriors used stick type devices to count their coup with. Each scalping or kill or battle would amount to a notch or decoration on the "Coup Stick" . I am sure you could look it up on Google. There were different types for tribes, importance, areas etc.
moss

Re: What is this...

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:58 pm
by rarefish383
I agree, Coup counting stick. I forget if it was in the book "Walking Dove" or another old western book. But, many tribes thought it took a much braver warrior to touch his enemy. Anybody could shoot them from far away, bow or rifle. Puts a whole new meaning to "Reach out and touch someone."