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Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:11 pm
by LongBlade
I found this knife on a local hunt a few years ago but forgot about it among my pen knives. One of my scores for the “special opportunity” aspect of my collecting ;-) ...

This appears to be an early Robeson based on the tang stamps and thought a Robeson with a Federal shield was somewhat unique (?). Nice jigged bone with some worm groove jigging on a 2 & ¾” knife – looks like Rogers Bone to me as well but not sure. Interestingly the blades have 2 different tang stamps. The Master has “Robeson/ShurEdge (script)/U.S.A.” (1916-1939) on the mark side and a pattern # stamp of 62664 on pile side tang. The pen blade is stamped “Robeson (arched)/Co/Cutlery” (1900-1916)… Thus from these stamps one can deduce a time frame of date of manufacture +/- 1916 given the 2 stamps overlap in that time frame. As noted by pattern # the bolsters are iron though the liners are brass. Knife is uncleaned condition which is normal for me (except for oil in the pivot) - I do think this knife was well carried based on patina and the nickel silver shield still has a shine probably based on the fact it was well carried in a pants pocket which kept that shield polished :)

I wanted to share it here with on the Robeson subforum – I have 2 Robeson’s now and don’t chase them as I have stumbled on the few I found - and I think Charlie has me thinking about them subconsciously :lol: (no doubt Robeson made some lovely knives) … Thanks for looking!!

Here are the photos -
Closed Mark Side DSCN1106.JPG
Closed Pile Side DSCN1125.JPG
Blades Open DSCN1037.JPG
Tang Stamp - Shield - Mark DSCN1056.JPG
Tang Stamp 62664 Master Pile DSCN1071.JPG
Tang Stamp Pen Blade DSCN1087.JPG

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:31 pm
by FRJ
That's a good looking little pen knife, Lee. ::tu::
I spent the last half hour looking for a 664 in pearl in my pile but I don't have one.
Yours is a gem.

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:09 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks Joe ::tu:: ....

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:06 pm
by wlf
They had some nice bone Lee. That’s typical looking Robeson to me, with worm groove or Indian trails if you prefer.

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:14 am
by woodwalker
Beautiful knife Lee!! That is one of the most unique Robesons I have seen posted! Carry it in good health! :)

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:35 am
by LongBlade
Thanks Lyle ::tu:: .. Worm groove or Indian Trail jigged bone is no doubt one of my favorites :D - I have seen that jigging on Robeson and of course Cattaraugus but also I've seen a number of H&B knives with worm groove jigged bone handles as well.. I know other cutleries used that jigging as well.

Thanks woodwalker ::tu:: ... I was wondering around an antique fair when that knife caught my eye among 30 others on a table ::nod:: I knew it was a Robeson but was not that familiar with dating the many stamps Robeson used over the years. After looking it up at home I realized it was an earlier Robeson, and this is just my guess but possibly a transition knife given the dating of the 2 different stamps ::shrug::

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:37 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Very nice little knife. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a Federal shield on this pattern.

The pattern number is actually 626064. They often omitted that zero from the number on patterns from 001 to 099, making a space saving five digit number, especially on the smaller knives.

I don’t recommend relying on secondary blade marks for the purpose of dating a Robeson knife. Just go by the master blade mark and Tom Kalcevic’s date chart in Knives Can Talk!, and take those with a grain of salt, because they are just educated assumptions. There are no official records from Robeson re’ tang stamp starts and stops.

Robeson did make the pattern in pearl and I have an 064 pearl three blade whittler.

Charlie

Re: Robeson Pen - 62664

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:56 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks very much Charlie ::tu:: - I was hoping you would comment on the knife (especially given the Federal shield) and dating of the tang stamps as I was curious and only guessing based on Kalcevic's chart... I thought I had read a comment by you once that the tang stamps were estimates and that especially the secondary blades were not necessarily a good way to date the knives by tang stamp. In just a perusal of this thread I did not see that many knives with the tang stamp so thought it was interesting (Robeson (arched)/Co/Cutlery) ... The Federal shield I had not seen as well when searching Robeson knives but thought you would know for sure how common that may have been - it looks original to the knife to me though you did not indicate it was not, and one can see the pin on it, so I was guessing that was one unique feature of this Robeson knife (and one I actually quite like given the size)... Much appreciated!