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Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:29 pm
by Eustace
1. Bundeswehr Taschenmesser 5110-12-162-8215 a.k.a. German Army Knife (GAK) 108 mm. The next model is 111mm, one hand opening, from 2003. Produced for the army by at least 10 companies.
2. Kabelklappmesser 5110-12-120-0816. The first samples for the Bundeswehr were delivered in 1959, produced by the following companies: JOWIKA / Carl Wittgens / IROKA, Jurgen Stamm, Otto Forster-Witzhelden, Donges GmbH & Co. KG.
3. Takelmesser Bundesmarine 5110-12-120-3974, a.k.a. Bordmesser mit Marlspieker. The first samples of the Bordmesser mit Marlspieker (sailors knife with marlin spike) 5110-12-120-3974, namely so it is called in official documents, were produced and delivered to the Navy from 1958 to 1992 where they are still used today. Produced by several subcontractors (Hugo Koller, Dr. Feicke GmbH, Jurgen Stamm, Otto Forste
4. Fallmesser-Kappmesser 1095-12-120-1119 / 7340-12-120-1119, or a paratrooper gravity knife. On armament from 59 to 63. Produced by Weyersberg, Kirschbaum & Co (WKC), Carl Eickhorn, Othello and Anton Wingen Jr. After that there is another model BW Kappmesser fur LL-Truppe 7340-12-140-1031, which I hope one day to own.
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:24 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Nice collection of military knives. Thank you for showing them and explaining their histories.

Are these difficult to find?
Ken
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:36 pm
by Eustace
The first two are easy and are not expensive. Manufactured by many companies and in large quantities. There are also many civilian copies.
The third - Marlin spike - is difficult to find from the production intended for the German Navy. At the moment I can find on sale only in Russia, but the order is little risky from there. There are a lot of civilian copies of various Chinese companies. Only the Italian Fox Company had an order for this knife from the Bundesmarine and sells the same model freely.
The most difficult to find is the gravity knife, especially in good condition. It was only 3 years of armament, and small quantities were produced exclusively for the army. Currently, according to Germany's laws, it is illegal to own.
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:45 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Thank you for the information. In my experience it is very rare to see Bundeswehr knives in USA. Since mid-1980s until 2013 I have spent a good deal of time off and on in Western Europe (as far east as Budapest) and do not recall seeing any Bundeswehr knives there either. Which is what led me to ask the question. Perhaps I wasn't looking in the right places, or they have been made illegal so they are not sold.
Ken
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:45 pm
by Eustace
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:19 am
by Miller Bro's
Very informative thread, thank you

Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:27 pm
by richard bissell
The W.W.II (earlier) version of their "gravity" knife has wood grips on it. //Look carefully at the springy blade retention device if you find one of these!!! The metal is almost always cracked right near where one of the pins goes thru it; the blade will still work(come out of the handle in spite of this defect).thank you...
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:02 pm
by dark350z
Good information thank you very much
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:11 pm
by Eustace
New addition Bundeswehr kampfmesser
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:21 pm
by 1967redrider
6 years to the day! Awesome group, Georgi, I love that gravity knife.


Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:41 pm
by Eustace
German navy bundesmarine takelmesser.
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:46 pm
by 1967redrider
Full tang and well built.


Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:46 pm
by Eustace
1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:46 pm
Full tang and well built.

I've been wanting one in good condition for a long time. I like its simple shape.
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:49 pm
by 1967redrider
Georgi, you would really like this Ontario Knife Co. Blackbird. 4 ¾" blade, 9 ⅞" overall, full tang and linen Micarta.
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:08 am
by doglegg
Eustace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:46 pm
1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:46 pm
Full tang and well built.

I've been wanting one in good condition for a long time. I like its simple shape.
Easy to see why you like it Georgi. Simple shape but so usable. Congrats.
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:35 pm
by Eustace
1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:49 pm
Georgi, you would really like this Ontario Knife Co. Blackbird. 4 ¾" blade, 9 ⅞" overall, full tang and linen Micarta.
Actually yes, I like it. I think to make something like this. Do you know what is the steel?
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:36 pm
by Eustace
doglegg wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:08 am
Eustace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:46 pm
1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:46 pm
Full tang and well built.

I've been wanting one in good condition for a long time. I like its simple shape.
Easy to see why you like it Georgi. Simple shape but so usable. Congrats.
Thanks, Floyd!
Re: Knives of the Bundeswehr
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:08 pm
by 1967redrider
Eustace wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:35 pm
1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:49 pm
Georgi, you would really like this Ontario Knife Co. Blackbird. 4 ¾" blade, 9 ⅞" overall, full tang and linen Micarta.
Actually yes, I like it. I think to make something like this. Do you know what is the steel?
154CM blade.