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Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:08 am
by dcgm4

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:34 pm
by peanut740
The tang stamp and pattern are a favorite of fakers.

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:48 pm
by kootenay joe
Note seller's description: "This is a parts knife, assembled in the 1980s from old parts"
I have bought quite a few knives from this wife & husband team in the past. (He collected, she sells)
Totally honest decent people in my experience.
kj

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:40 pm
by peanut740
Those blades were most likely stamped in the 80's also,if not later.

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:09 pm
by Shearer
kootenay joe wrote:Note seller's description: "This is a parts knife, assembled in the 1980s from old parts"
I have bought quite a few knives from this wife & husband team in the past. (He collected, she sells)
Totally honest decent people in my experience.
kj
I have purchased from this seller no problems.
Is this another example of people buying a knife collection with the odd knife that is of doubtful origin trying to sell them so they don't make a loss.
You tell the story that was told to you by the person selling the collection hoping it was true.
Grant

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:16 pm
by btrwtr
kootenay joe wrote: Totally honest decent people in my experience.
kj
I have had the pleasure of meeting him in Tulsa several times. Very nice gentleman.

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:29 pm
by americanedgetech
$36.00 with 5+ days to go.
This one will fetch a pretty penny.

The "tone" of the listing is that the knife is built from original parts but much later than the tang stamp indicates.

The tone of this thread is that the entire item is a fake. (I am not referring to the seller(s))
I wonder which is closer to the facts... ::shrug::

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:02 am
by Billswfl
Page four of this thread viewtopic.php?t=38459&start=45 has clear pictures of authentic and fake Pine Knot tang stamps.

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:17 am
by RobesonsRme.com
The tang stamp is fake.

Where does one get "original parts" to assemble knives in the 1980's, such as those blades, that are fake?

There are comparison photos on AAPK, as stated above, that show this stamp beside the real one and fake knives beside authentic knives.

Wonder why I sound angry?

It's because I bought this one for top dollar a few years ago, based on Levine's printed supposition that some Pine Knot knives were made by Robeson and this looked like Robeson bone.

And yes, I'm angry at myself.

Charlie

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:28 am
by jerryd6818
Pine Knot comparison attributed 2.jpg

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:56 am
by americanedgetech
Thank you all for posting that information.
I realize it is old news to you fellas but it is invaluable info for me, and this thread.

Sorry about your bad luck on that knife Charlie.
On the plus side you have a great example of a "fake" knife, and I do see value in that aspect of it.

Sometimes you are dealt Aces, and other times Eights. just what it is...

Re: Fake Belknap Pine Knot Congress Jack

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:51 am
by Ivoryman
RobesonsRme.com wrote:The tang stamp is fake.

Where does one get "original parts" to assemble knives in the 1980's, such as those blades, that are fake?

There are comparison photos on AAPK, as stated above, that show this stamp beside the real one and fake knives beside authentic knives.

Wonder why I sound angry?

It's because I bought this one for top dollar a few years ago, based on Levine's printed supposition that some Pine Knot knives were made by Robeson and this looked like Robeson bone.

And yes, I'm angry at myself.

Charlie
Hey that's a heck of a good looking knife even if it's fake, if you are upset over it does that mean you want to part with the knife? I would buy it for the right price. Let me know if you want to dump it. :mrgreen: