Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

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Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby jerryd6818 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:03 pm

You know. You see a picture of one that grabs you or someone buys one, talks it up and gets you all hot to trot to have one of your own. You may drool over it for quite some time before pulling the trigger or it may just be an impulse purchase but in the end, when it arrives in the mail, it just leaves you flat. Ho hum. Not quite buyers remorse but no excitement either. In person, the knife looses all it's wow factor. The knife just has no "soul".

Since it's happened to me several times, I just wondered if I had any company in this arena.

Here are a few examples that have fallen flat on their face. ::yawn::

Sanrenmu LAND 910
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Case Russlock
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Canal Street Muskrat
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Re: Did you ever buy a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby Colonel26 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:06 pm

I most definitely have. Too many times to count. Lol.

But I think you just need to spend more time with that muskrat. It sure looks to have souls from here.
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby jerryd6818 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:11 pm

That Muskrat lives here only because of my "one of everything" accumulation philosophy. No offense to Phil but for me, the entire line of Canal Street knives "have no soul"
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby philco » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:24 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:That Muskrat lives here only because of my "one of everything" accumulation philosophy. No offense to Phil but for me, the entire line of Canal Street knives "have no soul"



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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby jmh58 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:38 pm

I have more times than I can count.. What I do now is put a pic in my favorites of the knife I THINK I want.. If it stays there then its a keeper.. But if I loose interest in it after a while it goes.. John :D
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby stagman » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:56 pm

Ain't really never mentioned it to anybody...but...with Jerry opening up the can,
time to jump in...I thought I was the only one that talked to a knife, felt its presence
in my pocket or hanging on my belt, reaching down to give it a pat, and going even deeper
as mentioned, feeling the soul or inner thoughts of a knife, having the knife almost answering your thoughts
that you are feeling for this blade...yes folk's...the knife bug and the appreciation of owning certain knives runs deep into my old
dis-oriented, sometimes confused brain, ::facepalm::
So I for one am in that same arena with ya Jerry

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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby treefarmer » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:00 pm

Jerry,
It's interesting that I have a sense of "no soul" with two of the patterns you have shown. I detest tacticals, yet I have two that I use all the time, when I wear my bib overalls. ::shrug:: I don't mind scraping or cutting anything with either one, no matter the maker.
The Case Russlock is just off limits, totally. Lots of folks think they have "soul". Love the maker but not the style.
Then we get to the Muskrat, that pattern has a lot of "soul"! I've been using an Old Timer Muskrat every year when processing venison for many years and it is just right!
There must be a lot involved when determining if a knife has "soul". Several of these old stockmen feel right at home in my pocket, as does a Queen # 39 during deer season.::hmm::
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby Mumbleypeg » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:10 pm

I agree with the "no soul" sentiment on tacticals - they just don't do anything for me, but I have a couple I use occasionally. They're functional tools, but so is a screwdriver. Neither has any character. I don't care for the Russlock either - never could figure out why anybody would carry one, unless it was in a belt sheath. ::shrug:: That "sticking-out lever thingy" would put a hole in your pocket pronto for sure!!

Jerry's description of seeing a picture and getting excited, only to be disappointed when it arrives pretty much sums up my opinion of Parker knives. Years ago I bought several based on the SMKW catalog pictures and glowing descriptions, and the prices were low. Well, "you get what you pay for" was what I thought when they arrived. Couldn't put my finger on exactly what it was, but "no soul" aptly describes them. I still have a few of them, and I still get that "no soul" feeling when I look at them today.

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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby 313 Mike » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:37 pm

I have had this happen as well Jerry...most notably the few times I have been drawn in by the good reviews, variety of patterns, and cheap prices of Rough Riders. The three of four that I have given in to temptation and pulled the trigger on, have been pretty soulless to me once I got them in hand. Functionally they were fine, and they were plenty sharp, and pretty too.....I just felt no love for them at all and passed them on to others as freebies. They felt somewhat like an imposter to me and I never could form a bond with them at all.
Regarding "tacticals"...I hear where you all are coming from, and for the most part I agree. I have had my share, and passed most of them on, however I do have an orange full size Benchmade Griptillian that I feel has developed some soul by travelling many miles with me in the woods...there has definitely been some bonding there, and if I were ever to lose it I know I would be seriously bummed, not just due to its efficiency as a tool, but because of the memories I associate with it.
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby jerryd6818 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:02 pm

A knife's "soul" is a very individual thing. The Land 910 I posted did absolutely nothing for me. I might as well have been holding a wad of paper in my hand BUT my buddy Bob bonded with it instantly so I gave it to him and now we're both happy. I believe his comment was, "This just feels 'right' in my hand." I was happy to see it go.
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby espn77 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:45 pm

Interesting topic you have going here JerryD. I'm a one knife carry guy. I don't rotate, I know every millimeter of my knife. One day I got up late for work and rushed out of the house, about 10 miles down the road I realized I didn't have him with me. I might as well been at work naked. I got home and went straight to my dresser and put him in my pocket, telling him "I'm sorry buddy, I'll never do that again" it's no different than going quail hunting and leaving your dog at home. The look my dog and my knife gave me were the same. I display all my knives and every knife has told me where the proper place for him to be is. We all need to be sensitive to our knives feelings.

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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby americanedgetech » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:22 pm

I can relate to the "soul" aspect but talking to them??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll just pretend I didn't read that...

For me it is the age or the fact that a knife has had a home(s) before me. Even if a knife was a safe queen, I feel the previous owner(s) in the knife. I respect it more.

New knives always leave me "flat" feeling because I don't really have time to develop that character they need.
I can flip a new knife in seconds, and never even remember I had it but pre-owned knives I remember. I hesitate to sell them at all.
Maybe this is all in my head but I don't think so. It is too deep a feeling to discard.
Besides, my Camillus "Catfish Hunter" told me I was right, and not to worry about it! ::paranoid::

Ohhh. Ruslock hate? Really??? I think they are cool as cool gets. ::shrug::
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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby bronze4u » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:14 pm

treefarmer wrote:Jerry,
It's interesting that I have a sense of "no soul" with two of the patterns you have shown. I detest tacticals, yet I have two that I use all the time, when I wear my bib overalls. ::shrug:: I don't mind scraping or cutting anything with either one, no matter the maker.
The Case Russlock is just off limits, totally. Lots of folks think they have "soul". Love the maker but not the style.
Then we get to the Muskrat, that pattern has a lot of "soul"! I've been using an Old Timer Muskrat every year when processing venison for many years and it is just right!
There must be a lot involved when determining if a knife has "soul". Several of these old stockmen feel right at home in my pocket, as does a Queen # 39 during deer season.::hmm::
Treefarmer

I agree about - 'Tacticals', Though I appreciate them, I always felt like they haven't any soul! Maybe mostly new 'modern' ones? Most any vinatge knife I own has a soul to me.

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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby bronze4u » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:15 pm

americanedgetech wrote:I can relate to the "soul" aspect but talking to them??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll just pretend I didn't read that...

For me it is the age or the fact that a knife has had a home(s) before me. Even if a knife was a safe queen, I feel the previous owner(s) in the knife. I respect it more.

New knives always leave me "flat" feeling because I don't really have time to develop that character they need.
I can flip a new knife in seconds, and never even remember I had it but pre-owned knives I remember. I hesitate to sell them at all.
Maybe this is all in my head but I don't think so. It is too deep a feeling to discard.
Besides, my Camillus "Catfish Hunter" told me I was right, and not to worry about it! ::paranoid::

Ohhh. Ruslock hate? Really??? I think they are cool as cool gets. ::shrug::


Exactly, I agree!

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Re: Have you ever bought a knife that just had no "soul"?

Postby americanedgetech » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:50 pm

Kirk,
One of three things just happened...
1. I expressed myself clearly, and you are the first person that ever realized it.

2. I made enough sense for someone else to catch a glimpse of my train of thought.

3. (most likely) You, and I are just off the rails. ::ds::

Place your bets gentlemen... Place your bets...
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