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Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:00 pm
by just bob
This doesn't look right to me for many reasons. If it is legitimate at least it took a wrong turn on ugly street. Case blades in a Remington frame? Comments?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-W-R-Cas ... Sw8HBZHRAG
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:09 pm
by philco
Are they even Case blades ?
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:30 pm
by SteelMyHeart85420
That was my thought, too. Never saw a Case blade like that short fillet-looking thing....but, there's much I haven't seen in the knife world.
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:02 pm
by RalphAlsip
The frame looks right to me. I don't follow goldstone / pyremite handles so not qualified to comment on them. The odd looking secondary blade was used in the Tested XX bone 38. A spey / pen type blade is also used on the 38 pattern. The use of the punch in the blade configuration is probably rare.
Long story short, this seems like a plausible Case knife to me.
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:35 pm
by just bob
Wow. I would have never though that. That is what makes this a great site for learning. Thank you for posting that.
If you look at the bottom view don't the gaps between the springs raise a red flag? If you look closely you can see the plastic stand through the gap. Also the pin placement on the handles is very strange. I've never seen another like that, but there are many things about knives I've never seen.
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:09 pm
by msteele6
This knife (in Goldstone celluloid) is shown in Sargent's 7th Edition on p. 106. It shows the same slanted, grooved, pinched bolsters, with the punch. Pin and blade placement appears identical.
The secondary blade on Sargent's example is a spey blade. Same plain oval shield.
Obviously, the OP knife has been HEAVILY cleaned and the blades somewhat reshaped.
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:08 pm
by btrwtr
msteele6 wrote:This knife (in Goldstone celluloid) is shown in Sargent's 7th Edition on p. 106. It shows the same slanted, grooved, pinched bolsters, with the punch. Pin and blade placement appears identical.
The secondary blade on Sargent's example is a spey blade. Same plain oval shield.
Obviously, the OP knife has been HEAVILY cleaned and the blades somewhat reshaped.
Reading the knife it looks just like msteele6 says. Heavily cleaned and somewhat reshaped blades. Reading the master blade tang stamp it says heavily cleaned as well, which is why we can't see the stamp. Note that knife cleaners often have a difficult time cleaning the inside contours of punch blades. I imagine the rest of the knife would look like this punch if the knife had only been buffed rather than resurfaced like the rest of the exposed metal surfaces.
Re: Old Case Knife
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:20 pm
by RalphAlsip
btrwtr wrote:Reading the master blade tang stamp it says heavily cleaned as well, which is why we can't see the stamp.
The stamps on some Case Bros, WR Case, and Case Bradford can be shallow to begin with so it doesn't take much "cleaning" to erase them.
Because there are comparable knives are in Sargent's 7th, I made some comparison pictures for those interested. Notice the bolsters (and frame?) changed between WR Case & Sons and Tested, but the secondary blade is comparable. That doesn't mean anything is wrong with either knife. No question, there is a lot to be paranoid about out there, but many times things are ok with no good basis to explain why.

These idiosyncrasies make antique Case knife collecting both interesting and maddening.