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COA's

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:21 pm
by Adog
Is there any way to get a new COA for a knife that has prototype engraved on the back of the main blade? Have a number of knives that are marked as prototype but came with no COA. Is there someplace to get the knives aunthicated and a COA issued? And if so what is the cost.

Re: COA's

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:15 pm
by kootenay joe
Most of these 'certificates' are just marketing 'bumph'("B.S."). They do not add to value of the knife. Same for being engraved "Prototype". After seeing hundreds of these you stop being a believer.
Full custom knives often come with a certificate from the maker stating date sold, steel type, etc. and usually the price is noted as well. These are good to keep but the knife would be marked with maker's name so you don't need it to prove who made the knife.
As for all the so called "Prototype" production knives, i avoid them and look for an example from a regular run.
kj

Re: COA's

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:44 pm
by peanut740
I'm with Joe on most COA's.They should be made out of toilet paper.

Re: COA's

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:41 pm
by orvet
Adog wrote:Is there any way to get a new COA for a knife that has prototype engraved on the back of the main blade? Have a number of knives that are marked as prototype but came with no COA. Is there someplace to get the knives aunthicated and a COA issued? And if so what is the cost.
peanut740 wrote:I'm with Joe on most COA's.They should be made out of toilet paper.
Agree! If they were made from TP at least they would be useful! ::nod::

Re: COA's

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:44 pm
by SteelMyHeart85420
I can get you a CoA for a nominal fee....what font would you like?

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:11 am
by peanut740
SteelMyHeart85420 wrote:I can get you a CoA for a nominal fee....what font would you like?
Charmin or Cottonell?

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:40 am
by philco
peanut740 wrote:
SteelMyHeart85420 wrote:I can get you a CoA for a nominal fee....what font would you like?
Charmin or Cottonell?

I thought you were going to beehave. :lol:

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:49 am
by espn77
philco wrote:
peanut740 wrote:
SteelMyHeart85420 wrote:I can get you a CoA for a nominal fee....what font would you like?
Charmin or Cottonell?

I thought you were going to beehave. :lol:
Old Roger don't have to. He is a "gold supporting member" ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::watching_you::
Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:03 am
by gsmith7158
espn77 wrote:
philco wrote:
peanut740 wrote: Charmin or Cottonell?

I thought you were going to beehave. :lol:
Old Roger don't have to. He is a "gold supporting member" ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::watching_you::
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
Yeah I think that gold banner unleashed Roger! :D

As for the COA I can get you one in antique parchment papper! ::nod::

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:55 pm
by peanut740
espn77 wrote:
philco wrote:
peanut740 wrote: Charmin or Cottonell?

I thought you were going to beehave. :lol:
Old Roger don't have to. He is a "gold supporting member" ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::watching_you::
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
I see I'm getting all kinds of SUPPORT! ::groove::

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:57 pm
by peanut740
::super_happy::
philco wrote:
peanut740 wrote:
SteelMyHeart85420 wrote:I can get you a CoA for a nominal fee....what font would you like?
Charmin or Cottonell?

I thought you were going to beehave. :lol:
::sotb::

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:50 pm
by SteelMyHeart85420
::stir:: ::stir:: ::stir:: sorry, couldn't help myself

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:28 pm
by Quick Steel
SteelMyHeart: Very witty. You provoked a lol moment.

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:35 pm
by philco
Adog,

We've had a little fun with this and I hope you won't take offence. The truth of the matter is that COAs aren't taken very seriously by most seasoned knife collectors. Simply put, they're a piece of paper that says whatever someone wanted it to say and they're usually associated with cutlery that was made to be collected, not used. I think most here would agree that you buy the knife not the paperwork. Yes, it's nice to get all the original paperwork, boxes, etc. but the true collectible is the knife not the COA.

Re: COA's

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:41 pm
by olderdogs1
At one time the COA's flowed freely and some people were getting them made by dealers that shall go unnamed. They don't add to the knife in my opinion but some buyers want them. As an example I had a few 5 blade case classic sowbellies and a guy buying them took the ones with the COA's and left the others. Myself I would have bought the one with the best stag and fit and finish. I sold some 1st generation bulldogs one time and bought them back later. When I bought them back they had COA's with them that weren't there when I sold them. They don't mean a thing to me.
I remember one guy wouldn't buy a knife because it didn't have the plastic sleeve. I get questions about boxes almost every other day. As Phil says buy the knife, not the COA. ::tu::

Tom

Re: COA's

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:09 pm
by kootenay joe
Adog, as Phil has said above, i hope you understand than none of this 'fooling around' is directed at you. However it does show you the status given to C.O.A.'s by experienced collectors. I am fairly sure that as you gain more experience with knife collecting you will loose interest in C.O.A.'s and focus on the knife alone, not the paperwork.
I wish that knives had always been sold wrapped in a waxed paper, no box. Then i would not feel that i had to keep the box of every new knife i buy. I don't want to be a box collector and storing them takes up too much space.
I also hope that the fooling around does not inhibit you from asking more questions. Every member here is equally appreciated. Whether novice or seasoned collector, all have something positive to share.
kj

Re: COA's

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:48 am
by SteelMyHeart85420
Well spoken, Roland. I also hope I wasn't too harsh with my "funnin' ". Stick around and learn from the many fine collectors here, Adog

Re: COA's

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:21 am
by RalphAlsip
Adog, what kind of knives do you have and are wanting to get COA's for?

There is person named Creig Moore who administers the "Case Knife Collectors" group on Facebook. I believe Creig offers a service to provide a COA for Case Knives - not sure if he does for other brands. I can't vouch for Creig's services because I haven't used them. Please PM me if you are interested in getting a link to the Facebook group so you can get in touch with Creig. Creig might know someone who could help you if he can't.

For what it's worth, I agree with the opinions that have been expressed saying that COA's are not valued by most collectors, but if you want COA's for your knives go then go for it.

Re: COA's

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:55 pm
by peanut740
Check with Parker Knife Collector Service.That is who most likely put out the COA.