Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

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Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby J529A » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:39 pm

I have a small 2 blade pocket knife only 2 1/2 inches long closed. The tang on both the large and small blade is stamped as Western Cutlery Company. Apparently, Western Cutlery Company became Western Knife Company. Also at one point some of their knives were stamped Western States and Western Boulder Colorado. I'm trying to find out a date of manufacture and opinions as to the quality of these knives. I have very little information and any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby terryl308 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:56 pm

According to Harvey Platts book, Western States Cutlery & Co started in 1913, in 1956 changed name to Western Cutlery Co., 1957 moved to new building in boulder Industrial Park, I assume that is when they changed to the Boulder, Colo stamp ( not real sure about that though.) 1977 they moved to Longmont, co. it's a little It's a little confusing, the book also shows the western boulder, colo with a pat. no. 1931-1950 and the Western boulder,colo stamp from 1928-1931 and 1950-1961 and just Western U,S.A. from 1961 to present. Bottom line is it's a little hard to date old westerns by stamp alone. ::handshake:: Terry
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby Paladin » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:04 pm

In my never to be humble opinion, Western States (1911-1951) = Excellent Quality. Western Boulder (1951-1978) = Good+ Quality.
Western USA (1978-1984) = Some good, some not as good.
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby knife7knut » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:08 am

The original poster's knife was made in Germany by a company called Western Cutlery. As far as I know they had no affiliation with Western Cutlery in Colorado whatsoever. The knife in question likely dates from the 1920's or 30's when German cutlery manufacturers used many USA sounding stamps to try and get business here.
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby peanut740 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:25 am

Ditto.
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby Paladin » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:25 am

knife7knut wrote:The original poster's knife was made in Germany by a company called Western Cutlery. As far as I know they had no affiliation with Western Cutlery in Colorado whatsoever. The knife in question likely dates from the 1920's or 30's when German cutlery manufacturers used many USA sounding stamps to try and get business here.

Good job, Ray! I am as embarrassed as a schoolgirl who accidentally passed gas in history class.
I didn't even look at the exploded view to verify the origin of the knife. Good lesson there.

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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby J529A » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:51 am

Once again the information is always helpful! So this is a German knife and has nothing to do with the company in Boulder Colorado. Does anyone know about he quality of the German version? It appears to be a good little knife but it is very small. The scales appear to be mother of pearl and the blades have decent snap and no wobble. The blades do have wear but I had no idea it dated to the 1920s-1930s.

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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby terryl308 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:02 pm

Paladin wrote:
knife7knut wrote:The original poster's knife was made in Germany by a company called Western Cutlery. As far as I know they had no affiliation with Western Cutlery in Colorado whatsoever. The knife in question likely dates from the 1920's or 30's when German cutlery manufacturers used many USA sounding stamps to try and get business here.

Good job, Ray! I am as embarrassed as a schoolgirl who accidentally passed gas in history class.
I didn't even look at the exploded view to verify the origin of the knife. Good lesson there.

Ray

oops, I too jumped the gun and didn't enlarge the photo to see "Germany" stamped on the tang. ::dang:: Terry
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby knife7knut » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:54 pm

J529A wrote:Once again the information is always helpful! So this is a German knife and has nothing to do with the company in Boulder Colorado. Does anyone know about he quality of the German version? It appears to be a good little knife but it is very small. The scales appear to be mother of pearl and the blades have decent snap and no wobble. The blades do have wear but I had no idea it dated to the 1920s-1930s.

A good number of the German made knives of that era were of decent quality and this one appears to be as well.The cracking of the pearl handles is common as the pearl is pretty fragile and doesn't lend itself well to being dropped of mishandled.The most common problems I have found with them(as well as others of the period)are broken blades due to improper heat treating or abuse and wear on the back of the tangs causing the blades to stand proud due to hardness incompatibility between the tang and back spring.
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Re: Identify Western Cutlery Company Knife

Postby J529A » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:29 pm

Thanks to everyone for the great information! It is always and education to come to this forum.


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