Real or fake 'Puma' ?

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Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby bigbore » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:51 am

Hi
found this on ebay and not sure about it.

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It is smaller than the "Medici"


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These are sometimes at eBay, near mint condition, but I never saw one bevore.
Anyone here can help?
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby knife7knut » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:52 pm

Doesn't look like any Puma I've ever seen and if it is real it is likely of recent manufacture and probably Pacific Rim. As far as I know Puma never used smooth bone for handle material and the stag handled double edge looks a bit crude. Just my opinion.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby orvet » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:51 pm

I ran the pics through Photoshop and enlarged them a little.

Puma a.jpg

Puma b.jpg
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby bigbore » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:48 pm

Thanks knife7knut and Dale.

More pics

Puma.jpg


Puma1.jpg


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Puma3.jpg


Very similar to the Rough Rider from China

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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby tjmurphy » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:21 am

I would think that if it were a PUMA it would say "Rostfrei" (sp?) instead of stainless. ::shrug::
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby kootenay joe » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:45 pm

Knives for export can have "Stainless"
I think it is a pre 1960 Puma.
Have you looked over it for a 5 digit date code ? may be by blade release bar.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby bigbore » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:09 pm

No other marks on it.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby kootenay joe » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:33 am

"No other marks on it"
Then if authentic it is pre 1964.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby montemojo » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:48 am

I thought that I had seen one like that somewhere. Yhere are plenty of pics just like the OP knife. Just Google pictures of puma swing guard. I beleive this should confirm that it is a puma.

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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby kootenay joe » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:12 pm

"Just Google pictures of puma swing guard. I beleive this should confirm that it is a puma."
Monte, what a good idea !
I think you are correct: lots of images of same knife as OP is strong evidence of authenticity.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby jerryd6818 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:10 pm

Here Roland, take this towel. You have a little sarcasm dripping off your chin.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:34 pm

Do an image search for Puma Medeci, I think that's how they spelled it.

As to the OP, I'm just not seeing the quality I'd expect from Puma in that knife.

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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby kootenay joe » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:21 pm

I agree it does not have the usual German 'crispness' in it's construction.
BRL claimed that Puma's were never top quality knives, but the USA importer was able to promote them as 'best German', and this propagated the Puma myth that still exists today.
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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby Paladin » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:35 pm

My real question is why would they use a name of an animal that is native to and as far as I know, only seen on the North American continent? If there are Pumas in Central and South America I am not aware of it so don't beat me up too bad if that is the case. The question is still valid either way.
Puma has been around for many years. You think the folks in Germany were clammering around for a brand named after an animal with which they were not familiar? I think the Puma brand has been around since the 1700s and not sure when they began to market here in NA but I would bet a dollar to a dog poofie it was a long while after the 1700s.
It is just a marketing strategy that I have wondered about.

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Re: Real or fake 'Puma' ?

Postby jerryd6818 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:26 pm

Cougar (Puma, Mountain Lion, Panther, or Catamount) range:
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