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Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:20 pm
by GerryD
I've been going through my stags of late and these three were in the box of stag knives I bought. One is in need of a bit of rust management but other than that they are nice old pruners.They all measure about the same 4" closed and 7.5" open.
Enjoy

Gerry

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:15 pm
by knife7knut
Nice ones Gerry! That stamp is a very old one;Goins dates it 1825-1858. Which is a bit strange because I have a 7 day razor set by them and there is a presentation plaque on the box dated 1899. Kind of hard to imagine a razor set sitting around for nearly 40 years before presentation. There is a pic of them in the razor forum.

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:16 pm
by GerryD
K7K according to a source on the BB forum I've been told that if the M of Rowbotham is under the L in Wingfield it is a Wade Wingfield Rowbotham knife and the Wade died in 1851, the firm's name was changed from Wade, Wingfield & Rowbotham to just Wingfield and Rowbotham & Co. So we can presume the first posted knife and at least one of the other knives pre date 1852.

Gerry

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:34 pm
by knife7knut
Gerry:Here are a couple pics of the set.

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:57 pm
by GerryD
K7K Thats a nice set and i would say that the fact that it has clearly Wade_______ it is before 1852 . I suspect what you have is a marriage that is the box has been added later to give it a military interest. Have you researched the name on the presentation and the company, the regiment would also be good i bet

Gerry

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:00 pm
by GerryD
K7K Barielly is in India and the company were bankers i bet the 93rd regiment were there as well.

Gerry

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:48 pm
by knife7knut
Gerry: Thank you so much for that information! I have had that set for close to 40 years and never did any research on it.If I recall I believe I paid $50 for it back then which at the time was a considerable sum for me.I had started collecting straight razors as pocket knife availability had kind of dried up for awhile. I never really stopped collecting them and probably7 have a couple hundred of them now.

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:11 pm
by GerryD
I think the spelling may be wrong if it is in India i before e and all that. The place in India is spelt Breilly but the 93rd were in India up to the late 1860's but maybe he stayed or went back who knows? Interestingly the box has the same mark as the razors for Wade etc.

Gerry

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:25 pm
by knife7knut
GerryD wrote:I think the spelling may be wrong if it is in India i before e and all that. The place in India is spelt Breilly but the 93rd were in India up to the late 1860's but maybe he stayed or went back who knows? Interestingly the box has the same mark as the razors for Wade etc.

Gerry
The reason the box is stamped with their name is they likely contracted WW&R to make those 7 day sets for sale in their stores.It would have been far easier to hot stamp the box than the razors themselves. I wonder if maybe the reason that they have survived so long intact is that the spelling on the presentation shield was spelled incorrectly? Seems like it would have been fairly easy to remove the shield and install a correct one. Whatever the case the reading was interesting to say the least.

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:15 pm
by smiling-knife
Nice knives Gerry and razors K7K. Here's one more example.

Re: Wade Wingfield & Rowbothom stag trio

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:43 pm
by knife7knut
smiling-knife wrote:Nice knives Gerry and razors K7K. Here's one more example.
That is one BEAUTIFUL knife!!!!! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::