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Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:18 pm
by jerryd6818
I'm going to have to save my shekels. This looks like something I may want two of.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:01 am
by 313 Mike
::hmm:: ....verrrrrrey interesting!
I think I like the speaker jack best out of those three, depends what that bone looks like in reality. If it is similar in style to what they used on those diamond jacks a few years ago then I am in...

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:02 am
by TripleF
Very kniiiiiiiiiiiiiiice Jerry! Those would fit snuggly in your collection!!

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:02 pm
by jerryd6818
Scott you're so smart. I totally agree with you. :lol:

The Speaker Jack and the Clerk caught my eye. The Whip is okay but I'm just not much on single blades. It's the blades that did it for me of course.

I'm glad this pattern is not one of those little 3" or under knives.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:58 pm
by cody6268
Always wanted an "Office Knife" with those handles, but the only ones I could afford were in such bad condition, why bother. So, that'll likely be the one I get if it's affordable--$50 or so.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:59 pm
by jmh58
I am liking the Speaker Jack!! The Whip would be a nice "Fancy" carry too!!! John :D

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:20 pm
by Jody744
I really like the jack, hope they do some northfield versions!

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:50 pm
by kootenay joe
GEC already has a Congress frame that is 3.75", the # 61 & # 62. This new # 13 is just a hair smaller at 3.71", 4/100's of an inch to be exact.
What might be the reason for making a new frame that is so close to what they already have ?
I have a # 62 with elephant ivory handles, very fine knife, every aspect is just right.
kj

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:32 pm
by Colonel26
I'm a liking that Speaker Jack.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:00 pm
by melton714
Where are these available at I'm a Congress collector and this is right down my driveway?

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:20 am
by jerryd6818
melton714 wrote:Where are these available at I'm a Congress collector and this is right down my driveway?
Not yet and may not be until next year. ::shrug::

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:47 am
by Tsar Bomba
kootenay joe wrote:GEC already has a Congress frame that is 3.75", the # 61 & # 62. This new # 13 is just a hair smaller at 3.71", 4/100's of an inch to be exact.
What might be the reason for making a new frame that is so close to what they already have ?
I have a # 62 with elephant ivory handles, very fine knife, every aspect is just right.
This looks like a "skinnier" frame to me, evokes some of those old Cases which are just a hair shorter than this one is going to be. The #62 reminds me of those broader Queen type frames, though it is weird that GEC is barely varying the length that much. ::shrug:: I think a skinnier Congress frame gives GEC some flexibility for future runs, though these PPPs look pretty great too. I'm kinda glad there's no "traditional Congress" on this run.

I really like the Office Knife on a Congress frame with a Wharnie (I wonder if it'll be in smooth bone instead of a synthetic - the Office Knife is usually a shadow pattern, right?) and the Speaker Jack would make a fine complement with the sheepsfoot and the nice darker bone. The Whip looks great, too, but it would be so redundant to the Clerk that it's a hard sell. I suppose I could be convinced once I see a photo of the bone instead of the mock-up... ::paranoid::

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:24 pm
by biglmbass
kootenay joe wrote:GEC already has a Congress frame that is 3.75", the # 61 & # 62. This new # 13 is just a hair smaller at 3.71", 4/100's of an inch to be exact.
What might be the reason for making a new frame that is so close to what they already have ?
I have a # 62 with elephant ivory handles, very fine knife, every aspect is just right.
kj
I don't think it's a new frame, unless I'm terribly mistaken. It's the same frame they used for the Blade Forum Congress Jack that was made a few years ago w' white micarta scales. Why they made a new frame for it back then, so close to an existing frame is a mystery.

These new ones look interesting and as Congress collector, I'm looking fwd to them.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:32 pm
by Tsar Bomba
I think it's a safe assumption that this is a new frame that is, curiously, incrementally shorter and a smidgen skinnier than the existing GEC "swayback" Congress-style frames. How much of an alternative it will be to the #61 is anybody's guess, but I do like what they're doing with the blade configurations and apparent finishes for the first run of #13s.

We'll see for sure if they give the first knives the PPP etch. I'm excited and plan on reserving a couple of these. The Congress bug has bitten me recently so this is most fortunate.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:31 pm
by kootenay joe
Quote: "Congress bug has bitten me recently"
I am only half bitten (nibbled ?). I really like the Half Congress pattern, but feel no attraction to a 'full' Congress. I like slender knives so this is likely the reason for my opposite reactions.
kj

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:12 pm
by Tsar Bomba
After carrying my new (to me) stag half-whittler this weekend I can pick up what yer layin' down, KJ. It was a treat how that knive vanished in the pocket and a sheep/pen combo is always a good & useful blade selection. The blade redundancy on the 2x sheep 2x pen knives often chases me away from a full Congress but I do enjoy the ones with a variety of blades like my new 64052:
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Very excited to lay eyes on the GEC #13s to see what they do with this venerable pattern.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:29 pm
by kootenay joe
Here is a very nice GEC #61 pattern, 3.75", with a wharncliffe master & coping secondary. The fit is one of the best of my GEC's. The ivory handles are a little bland, flat off-white, but still it's a keeper & would make a fine "Grandpa" knife too.
I still do not understand why make a new frame, the # 13, that is only 4 one hundredths of a inch different in length from this nicely sized # 61.
kj

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:52 pm
by philllll
The #13 isn't a brand new pattern, it was designed and previously used on the 2013 Bladeforums club knife.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:25 pm
by jerryd6818
kootenay joe wrote: GEC #61 pattern, 3.75",kj
#61 is 3-5/8", not 3¾" ----- 3-5/8" is 3.625" which makes the #!3 at 3.71", 85 thousandths larger.

Stick to the metric system. In spite of the fact that I dislike the metric system, it is better (and easier).

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:37 pm
by kootenay joe
Knivesshipfree lists the # 61 as 3.75".
My ivory # 61 shown above measures exactly 3 3/4" which is the same as 3.75".
kj

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:31 pm
by jerryd6818
I had never measured mine. I just went by the GEC advertised length. Looks like it's somewhere in the middle. Yeah, it's slightly cocked in the calipers but the measurement doesn't change when you get it square in between the jaws. It is closer by a smidge to 3/4" than it is to 5/8".

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:40 am
by Tsar Bomba
We got some GEC science going on! ::tu:: :lol:

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:02 am
by kootenay joe
It is odd that GEC website has 3 5/8" but KSF has it as 3 3/4". It's a minor point but it is unusual to get a discrepancy between GEC & KSF.
I wonder if the rounded bolster model is 3 5/8" and the square bolsters add 1/16" on both ends making it 3 3/4" ?
If i dig into my GEC hamper i might be able to find the answer !
kj

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:58 am
by jerryd6818
Quite frankly, I don't give a fig. I just like the knife.

Re: Preview: A New Pattern For 2017 -- The #13 Congress

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:42 am
by jmh58
Looking like they are gearing up for thisun!!! ::tu:: John :D