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From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:57 am
by orvet
Here is a nice, lightly used Western that I repaired for a customer last month.
The knife had been well cared for (except the leather handle) and had not been used much.
TI removed the leather ring handles and replaced the handles with some nice Sambar stag.

My customer was very pleased with it and had to take it on a trip to show off to some relatives.
It was very much like a knife his dad or granddad had owned.

Hope y'all enjoy the pictures.
Western stag redo b.jpg
Western stag redo c.jpg
Western stag redo d.jpg
Western stag redo e.jpg
And of course the knife still had the original Western factory sheath.
Western stag redo a.jpg

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:41 am
by TripleF
Top notch as always Dale!!! ::tu::

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:16 am
by Shearer
Like it Dale.
I go with TripleF " top notch"

Grant

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:47 am
by philco
Dale that knife looks fantastic. ::tu::

The stag has a coloration that I associate with older knives. Did you toast it, dye it, or was it already like that ?

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:32 am
by Colonel26
Very classy. I love it.

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:06 pm
by glennbad
Beautiful, Dale! Looks like a factory job. ::tu::

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:11 pm
by RalphAlsip
Dale, beautiful work and beautiful result ::tu::

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:35 pm
by orvet
Thanks guys , I appreciate the encouragement.

As those of you who make or repair knives know, finding quality stag is becoming more and more difficult and expensive. Often there is a very dark outer coloration on some stag and the white layer under it. For most applications that coloration is less than optimum.
This stag came from a knife maker friend in the UK. I believe he told me he got it from a company in Scotland, not the first place I think of when sourcing stag. LOL

In this case I sanded the stag to 4000 grit, polished it, removed any waxy residue from the compound with 98% isopropal alcohol and then dyed the stag and polished it again. It is quite a bit of work, but I feel the results are worth the effort.

Thanks again.
Dale

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:36 pm
by Phin Spencer
Dale Nice job! What kind of dye did you use? I have been toasting elk horn
and it is very hard to get it even,
regards
Phin

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:02 pm
by #goldpan
Dale you have a way with stag ::tu:: That knife is beautiful!

Randy

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:06 pm
by muskrat man
Can't go wrong with a stag western

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:43 pm
by treefarmer
Might fine, Dale, as usual :) .
Treefarmer

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:50 am
by Cowdiddly
Excellent work Orvet. Now I hope you understand why I withdrew from the knife roundtable. It was not the rest of you guys skills that I was worried about like you seem to have thought... it was mine. You seem to have been offended by my withdraw so I just let it die down and did not want to trash up the thread explaining. I thought we were going to make a knife from scratch.
I worked in a metallurgy lab at a steel mill for 6 yrs and welded for 30. I know my stuff about forging and heat treating, quenching and tempering and have mastered 3-4 steels and can pound out a blade to be proud of. I don't like doing it unless I;m in the mood and have nothing bothering me and have 4-5 guys bugging me to make them one. I just really like to do it for myself. But when it comes to handles, file work and redoing pocket knives and such I just am not that talented. In fact... I just plain sux at it. More of a bull in a china closet kinda guy. lol

. Ill post up some of my cornbread handle work one day on some excellent forge work and you will see what I mean. Matter of fact, I have an antler handle I made on the exact same knife. It looks nowhere near that level. :( lol

Nice job looks like it was done at the factory.

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:56 pm
by garyflorida
Very good. How did you make the spacers? glue the material together in a sandwich and slice down the middle? Sand to finish by hand or 2" strip sander machine?

Gary

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:44 pm
by orvet
Phin Spencer wrote:Dale Nice job! What kind of dye did you use?
I use potassium permanganate. The more you use it the better results you can get with it.
It just takes a bit of experimentation.

Re: From rotten leather to stag

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:18 am
by coffeecup
orvet wrote:As those of you who make or repair knives know, finding quality stag is becoming more and more difficult and expensive. Often there is a very dark outer coloration on some stag and the white layer under it. For most applications that coloration is less than optimum.
Finding even mediocre stag is becoming more difficult and expensive. Uneven thickness and curvature seems more of a problem than coloration. I can fix the color, but the excessive/uneven thickness caused when the natural curvature of the antlers is slabbed is more problematic. As time and funds allow I've been trying to work out how the old makers were doing it, but it is slow going.